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Thanks. Will change when with the next update.

But we aren't a great club and haven't been for more than half a century. There are few signs that we will be in the foreseeable future. Why should young men like Oliver and Petracca etc bust a gut to be the best they can be, hang around a club when many others don't and that has a sub-standard coaching panel. We have a handful of players doing the heavy lifting; the rest are along for the ride. Oliver isn't one of the latter. He consistently does more than his fair share.

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Thanks. But why doesn't the club say that!!! Or at least say nothing at all rather than let it look like one year!!! Grrrr

She helped coach the AFLW team while pregnant with her twins and has held other positions at the club but left to focus on her game and the media. So we may need to wait a while to see where her career goes. One thing is for sure she loves the Dees - when they were setting the rules for marquis players at the start of the AFLW she told Gil that if she couldn't go to the Dees she wasn't playing.

Perhaps, but the person's well being and privacy and that of his family are paramount. The longer it stays out of mainstream media the better.

No pile on from me - Daisy is the best commentator by far. Have said in another thread, would love her as an assistant coach.

This true but if Bartlett and the Board are making the call they must think it is worthwhile to have Green or similar. Also, Bartlett is busy with a variety of President and Board responsibilities so having an experienced football person (and maybe a Football sub-committee) to evaluate football matters helps with his job.

A few clubs have ex players on their Board. Green won't be held accountable for the club's football performance. It is the Coach and GM Football that carry that. And, Boards don't have one person responsible for a specific portfolio. More often than not they chair or sit on the relevant sub-committee eg Governance, Finance, Football, Audit etc The sub-committees set the club strategy, sign off on key CEO recommendations, sign off on key appointments, delve into critical issues/problems etc

Getting Green and Yze back might be the beginning of Jnr Mc loving us again - maybe loving us enough to present the medal named in his honour at the BnF each year.

Have been asking for a Football Director on the Board for over two years. Last time we had one was Greg Healy. The club finally acknowledging a lack of football experience on the Board. Great appointment in concept and Green in the role.

Thanks for clarification. Still the words '...in our price range...' worry me. It points to poor sal cap management. I would have thought we would move heaven and earth to get forward help and trade out an asset if we needed to. I think Petty will be great and its good the club think highly of him. But he had one good game as a fwd when he kicked 3 and no defender paid him any attention. To me it smacks of the same blind faith we put in TMac on the back of 10-15 good games as a fwd.

Both clubs seem to have spent big and still have pots of dough to do so again this year without maxxing out their sal cap. I fear we throw around the big dollars to get/keep people at the club not just players but it has also been reported we paid big, big money to Richardson and to Burgess, altho the latter has paid his way. Buying signatures is not sustainable.

Its a sorry state of affairs if we have maxed out our sal cap with a long tail of 'journeymen' players and can't settle on a regular starting 22. Shows the folly of long-term and/or high cost player contracts who subsequently underperform (TMac, Melksham, and maybe Harmes, Lever and Tomlinson). Some can still redeem themselves but in the meantime it is a double whammy to list flexibility and sal cap. Sub-standard list and contract management.

Yes. At last we have an assistant who has completed the formal qualifications and has a lot of coaching experience, in a successful club. He is more qualified than the rest of our 4-5 person coaching panel put together. (Have excluded Goodwin for that comparison).

Delighted he is back! Why does the press release say ' joined the Club’s coaching panel for the 2021 season'. Just one year???? Same wording as the Burgess press release last year...

Carlton preparing to get Saad free if trade can't be done adam-saad-preseason-draft Even tho there are a few teams ahead of Carlton who could draft Saad it would be unlikely if he refuses to meet them or do a medical. It would be more a Luke Ball type situation. Some interesting posturing coming up. Dodoro might have met his match: Carlton have shown with Martin they can be stubborn and won't blink first!

I repeat the post you quoted:

We are saying the same thing: he has things to improve to be elite. In time he will be. imv his performances weren't consistent this year. Not saying the stats don't say that. I'm going on the coaches votes which show he voted in 6 of 17 games for a total of 34 votes. 24 of those votes were in 3 games.

A very apt subtitle to this thread: the rats are fleeing Love it!!

When I mentioned coaching, I was thinking the 'how to improve' in addition to identifying the 'what needs to improve'. (A bit like knowing we need to improve our fwd cohesion but coaches haven't worked out the magic formular to make it happen). Certainly agree, this year shows he is improving his weaknesses. He strikes me as being very coachable so am confident the improvement will continue. I was really saying he has elite stats but is not yet the elite player some suggest due (imv) to lack of scoreboard/gameimpact. But he is just 23. Dusty, Dangerfield and Neale were 25-27 when they reached that elite level. Oliver will be just as good if not better when he gets to that age group. Imagine having both Oliver and Petracca as high impact mid-fielders.

A must read for aspiring elite midfielders: Lachie Neale's: inside-the-mind-of-the-afl-s-best This year, "I worked really hard on driving with my legs, kicking the ball a lot more and trying to get centre forward to set up a few more attacking plays for us, rather than just trying to accumulate the footy. I've worked really hard to change that and add little bits and pieces this year and it's come to fruition a bit this year and, if I kicked straighter this year, I'd have a few more goals (he's kicked 11.13)." "There's been patches throughout this season where I haven't probably played at my best, so I can become even more consistent and try to deliver more week in and week out. I've tried to add a little bit in terms of when I get attention and release our players and free up a few of our players, which I haven't done so well in the past. "It might not show in disposals and clearances and key stats, but trying to influence the game in other ways as well going forward." I see a lot of Oliver in Neale prior to this year's improvement. I have been criticised on DL for saying Oliver accumulates high stats but doesn't impact the game. He needs to impact games and kick goals himself and have more goal involvements. Then he will be in the class of Dusty, Neale, Dangerfield. I love Oliver and would love to see him fulfill his potential so I hope the club develops him to become a complete, elite player and not leave it up to 'natural' improvement. I have little doubt he can do it.

I'm sure the AFL 'FA special herbs and spices' formula will guarantee pick 7 for Daniher. And I bet they still get a favourable fixture next year in terms of easier teams, time slots, FTA etc just as Carlton did over recent years to make them Great Again! Yes, all very sickening and very rigged. Still, I hope we get our act together next year and leave them all behind in our wake!!

They may have lots of top 10 picks but as we (and Carlt, Bris, GCS, etc) know only too well without the culture, administration and coaching they don't amount to much and you can still wallow at the bottom of the ladder. They are in denial. Their GM Football claiming the players leaving have a problem rather than the club have a problem. Too arrogant to admit their 'glorious' club can do wrong. Its all karma for their drug cheating years. They have earnt their stint at the bottom of the ladder. Hope they enjoy it for a long time to come!

Sure others will do a review to cut costs but the CEO won't be saying a reason is our 'inconsistent performances' and single out the coaching department. He knows it is broken and will fix it.