Wells 11

This team seems like it has lost all confidence. Not sure how they can turn this around.

this is borderline embarrassing

Turner was everywhere. 5 goals up forward and marks everything when down back. Surely he gets back in.

MFCSS pessimism. Suns by 6 goals. Hope I’m wrong.

Sadly I think I agree...he cant catch a break can he.

the obvious lack of energy , not just in the last but all day might confirm this. Hopefully it’s that and nothing more culturally sinister.,

whoever he is he’s pathetic too…did you see how the ball slipped off their boots? he was probably moved over from the laundry department and clearly hasn’t got a clue!

he hasn’t really played yet… give it time.

add in May, Pickett and Windsor and things look a little different I think.

yeah I saw that too . Tough for Billing’s but his kicking for goal is just a liability.

opinion or inside info?

May won’t play this weekend. It’s in the injury report.

JVR was one of the big disappointments on the day for me. I understand wet conditions etc but he just didn’t look anywhere near it. Should he have been given some time in the ruck to at least get him into the game?

yep..it both sealed the game and appeared to be his / our redemption against his premature, first game, gang tackling, pies. BOG that day and the next year not playing for us and the next retired. AFL footy is tough sport.

no question… but the question coming back is what’s the limit of how far we go re trading players and salary?

In retrospect didn't the dees end up offering what would have been 4 x 1st rounders for him? ( given where we finished last year) . If so thats an offer they will never get again and are no doubt regretting not taking as much as I am glad it didnt happen. We dont need saviours....and we've been down that track too many times.

jesus no… in no world anywhere do we trade both fr Harley.

Doesn't mean we automatically agree though does it. Anymore than Freo automatically agree to Jackson.

Interesting comment at the end of that article of Caro's re the demons being concerned about WHO Oliver spoke to in those meetings last year. To me that means it was more than players and or coaches as that would be expected. So joining the dots here Im guessing he would have had a deal put to him at way less than the dees were paying and that whoever else was that there might have made it clear where his extra money was coming from.

Interesting thought. Want to elaborate a bit further? Re this possible trade I also wonder if Pickett isn’t a more important player to us than Jackson would be.

football played in a horrible jumper

so was frost at the dees. Not sure what it really means.

yeah, agreed. Also potential for a deeper involvement at some point too I guess.

anyone know at what level the sponsorship is? ie major, minor, shorts?

I know so little about him… what are his best attributes and do you think he can step straight in ?