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20yo mid, hard at it, tackling machine who finds the ball and uses it well. Give me some more of that run of the mill...

Exactly 'dazzle'...his ruck craft, 2nd efforts, tackling, vision to open out play with handball, pick good options are exceptional.

Yep, that's what I call solid evidence...

It's good to have the VFL back...lol

I guess they don't trust the SA chief health officer...that's a surprise.

A friend of mine does some work with a minor celebrity (maybe underselling him, he's quite well known) who believes the earth is flat. When my friend was asked what it would take to get him to change his mind and believe the earth was flat he said, 'evidence'...

All that matters in the end is who wins it...opinions then don't mean s...

It's pretty easy to see why "The Eagles" asked Vince to join. Not only talented but apparently a really good person, does a lot behind the scenes to help others in trouble. Always loved this song...a tribute to the writer Mac Davis

No I think that was the 3 word analysis. Perfectly summed up our performance in 3 words. I don't think anyone could argue with you this week 'joeboy'...

With all the controversy this year I bet they wish they had given it to him...

Posted similar 'red'...I think it will be Lyon and Clarkson. Take the pick of which to which club but my thinking is Clarkson to Collingwood and Lyon to Carlton. I actually feel for Teague, he's being hung out to dry and probably won't be given the opportunity to see the job through. I wish both clubs a miserable futures full of failure. I hope that is not being too unkind.

All good 'dazzle'...

Maybe 'dazzle' but if you look at all clubs primary ruckman, how many were taken top 20? NikNat & Grundy are all I can think of... Jackson was taken on his ability to play forward & there was even talk of him being a tall mid, as we know he's a great 2nd fiddle to Max. If he was a pure ruck I doubt he would have gone top 10, maybe just in top 20 probably not...Coleman-Jones is a forward & English just scraped in as a top 20 selection. By the way, I'm not saying it's right or wrong to overlook a ruckman, you can call rubbish all you want but that's what is happening. They're just not being selected at the pointy end. You can't (well you did) use the mid season draft to back your argument, this is where clubs will look to bolster ruck depth &/or in Norths case secure players for the future where they can afford to put some development time in. As for Mac, I guess we wait & see. It would be great having another young developing ruck talent on the list....

1999 is a fair way back there 'ManDee'... It would be unlikely to happen now...the last ruckman to go top 20 in my recollection was Grundy (not a skinny kid) with pick 18 in 2012. He was a standout junior yet slipped back the draft order and was a steal at that pick. Fraser became the argument why you don't select a skinny ruckman with early picks.

I thought you might be implying something about St Kilda footballers hence the Mary...

Peter Paul & Mary..

"Lazy" would be mine...nice take on a minor blues.

Deep Purple...

Gram Parsons - The Byrds

He will coach somewhere next year...my guess is the Hawks will lose their nerve and transition Clarkson out & Mitchell in. Their hand has now also been forced. Clarkson will be at either Carlton or Collingwood. Lyon will take the other job. ...but if either of them (Carlton or Collingwood) go with Mitchell, an untried coach then interesting times. Carlton couldn't go with another untried, unproven coach could they?

I love the media frenzy now, all trying to be relevant. Ryan & Niall beat them to the punch, got the scoop...well done to them. Stevo a long way back treading in quicksand...waiting for Browne and the rest to pile on.

..or maybe Clarkson. There is little doubt that Carlton have spooked them.

Maybe they will 'A F' but as we are the better team if we put in equal commitment we should win. The danger was we might underestimate C/wood or be off our game coming into this one. With this development we now know what they're going to bring and can step up to match it. Of course it could also deflate them and they bring nothing. Going to add an extra interest to the game.

Not getting a game 'A F', worth a look?

Their list is pretty good, they've got the backbone of a good side. Made some bad decisions I think in overpaying for 2 half back flankers and that could come back to haunt them when having to stump up the cash for Cripps and McKay. Plus they missed some really good players in the draft. They seem to be succumbing to knee jerk pressure from the media and by extension the fans. Collingwood were the disaster club last week, Carlton this week...who's next. If they take the emotion out of it and look logically they are pretty well set. Funny that they went with an untried coach when they said they wouldn't go down that path. Again they went the popular path (Teague winning a few games) instead of sticking with their better judgment. Do they change the coach or give him better support. I honestly hope they make the wrong call whatever it is. The media rubbish about the competition needing a strong Carlton doesn't wash with me.