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You've got to be kidding, watching his debut would have made a visit to the 'G' worthwhile. Well let's hope we can put in a fair effort and Howe takes mark of the year.

Hudson has done exactly what he was brought in to do, fill the space left if Jolly is injured. He did ok and has worked and will if needed in the future. ...but I get your point about what was available and in that case Byrnes and Dawes would have been enough to bring leadership and experience, Magner upgraded and someone like a Hannath.

I love to watch Geelong play, Stevie J makes me laugh to the point of tears with some of the things he does. In a pure football sense they play the way the game is meant to be played and work hard for each other...but don't think for a minute that there is not a wealth of talent and class at the Cats. Do I love watching Geelong because the muppetts on 7 tell me they are good. No, read my other posts on this. This Saturday night crew on 7 is a disgrace and brings the game into disrepute they make me laugh at their absurd attempts at commentary and I'm left speechless by their lack of understanding of the game at times. I wish Darcy would shut up about the Geelong dynasty, we can see for ourselves. It won't go on for ever but they have done a better job than any other club in the modern era of the draft to stay at the top of there game.

We can offer it to him if we like, however if I was him I would hold off and see where the club is heading. At the moment any reasonable management would not advise him to sign. Next season when the future of the club and FD is more certain would be the time, 3 or 5 we should get an extension as a sign of faith that he has a future with a club heading in the right direction.

Rash changes no, status quo no. There will be a lot of very well considered changes over the next 6 months.

As a few posters have pointed out we could have upgraded Magner and picked up Hannath. Whether or not they were the right choices who knows but your question has been answered. On the salary cap you can't just throw out a line about Collingwood not picking up Goddard without taking it into account. Byrnes yes, but to add Roden, Gillies and Pederson is where the mistake was made. Moved on some NQR's and replaced them with more at best.

Was a lot to do with Maric getting injured, with Vickery out of the game as well he couldn't get a break and had no power to get off the ground or even hold his ground and the Cats just blew em away after that. He's not too smart is our Ivan and nor are the Tiges or our favourite commentator Luke Darcy. When Harry Taylor ran him down the ground in the 2nd quarter the Mullett was supposed to be resting at FF, Darcy thought it was great that he then started taking off the other way and making Harry chase him. Call me stupid but he was supposed to be getting a break and trying to stretch the Cats defence, one of his team mates should have taken Harry and let Ivan hang back around the centre for the relief kick, get his break and get back into the ruck.

You don't create born leaders they are born. Geelong started the process from the top down; Frank Costa had a vision, he went and got the best CEO in the land Brian Cook and they rebuilt the club. Their recruiting has been excellent but they've also had a bit of a kick along with father son picks in Scarlett, Ablett and Hawkins, not a bad free kick. We can be as patient as many here would like but until we get the right people running the club we will not be rebuilding any culture and we are not going anywhere. The next 6 months is the most important for this club in living memory, we have a chance of clearing the decks and building for the future or of existing off past glories and dying a long slow death.

With the disappointment of our club at least I can get some joy from football watching the GFC play, they are just so good. My partner is a Geelong girl and I spend a fair bit of time down there and the club is the pride of the town. Good on them.

A few points here 'Al'. On Goddard, the Pies didn't have the salary cap space to have a go at him. Cloke took up a big wack of that and coming on the back of Pendles & Swan they were sellers rather than buyers. They are in a different position to us in that they are a premiership chance, Hudson is insurance for Jolly whilst they wait for Witts and Grundy. On last nights form Witts looked pretty good and maybe further advanced than they thought. Russell was part of the plan to get O'Brien out of the back half and up on to a wing. He, Russell had a bad one last week and got dropped. If you are looking to pick up players to turn careers around then you should be looking at 22-24yo who have shown they can play but are struggling to make it in really good sides. You can break them free with opportunity and a bit of cash.This is more the Sydney model with Kennedy, McGlinn, Mumford, Richards and the like. We picked up a few past their use by dates and a couple of others who couldn't get a game at their previous clubs because they weren't good enough. If the guys we picked up were for depth then with almost a full list in round one you need to ask why 4 depth players got a game.

Agree, there seems some unwritten rule that if you are a ruckman you don't kick. That is unless you are at WC.

I don't get this either, but the whole MFC part of this seems to be around who told who what and when. No one seems to be focussing on thing that matters most and that is a kid whose career may or may not be threatened. I hope there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes and Trenners has been guaranteed he is ok. People forget the pressure this kid has been under in a short career, the way he was made an example of with the sling tacking thing was an absolute disgrace in my opinion and I think the club should have gone in a lot harder on that. 186, Bailey's sacking, the captaincy through the current turmoil, the supplements, Dank biz. No wonder he is a bit slow at the moment carrying the amount of weight he is on his young shoulders.

Look, no one knows for sure but it is to do with AOD964 not being listed as a banned substance but no being approved for human use it falls under a catch all which means it is by default Illegal and banned. With this whole thing there is so much information that counters other information so who really knows but the stuff Trengove is said to have been prescribed is an over the counter cream that has been approved for human use. Putting 2 and 2 together you would think he is ok. My understanding of this is the same as 'bings', but hey we could be way off the mark. Nothing new here just opinion but it would seem logical, if anything in this whole fiasco is logical.

'Unsullied'?

Sorry 'redleg' and 'Jack' but isn't Bob Hawke mister charisma, just what we need to get the factions together. Keating as CEO of the banana republic that is the MFC, get rid of the ridiculous KPI's at the FD and bring in the "J" curve and we're on our way. Will need a succession plan, Eddies has worked as well as Bob's and John's. Politics of any kind, isn't it a wonderful thing. A drovers dog could run this club.

Mine too 'bing'.

He is a good kick but hasn't settled at AFL level yet. I think he will take the wrong option and back himself to hit targets that are less than 50/50, and also because he can he uses his wrong foot when he should go to his natural. There is still a bit of smart A in Sam and he needs to let it go to realise his potential.

That's a good question, as a junior he was so good on both sides that no one was sure what his natural kicking foot was.

He was on the list last year.

Pretty right on most of this 'master' but he should be compared with Cook, Howe and McDonald, this is the draft he was picked up in. Tynan and Taggert are a year behind.

'Ron' read the context and don't post this BS mate. The post was about the mix of KPP and Mids, no judgement was made on my part except for me not being convinced by the Dawes trade of our pick 20. It was in answer to an answer of another post. The Hogan pick and Viney at pick 20+ were connected and in my opinion probably the smartest selections we have made probably in the history of the draft. So of course we should have picked Hogan.

Don't know but they obviously have seen enough to keep him on the list. As a few have noted above he has a lot of positive attributes, lets hope he makes it.

Not too many are.

Not a bad summation, I think they just don't know what to do with him. He certainly gives it a red hot go from what I've seen, a bit like a bloke who plays with GC these days who also copped a bit from his own supporters and coaching staff. Last year in the NAB he got towled up against the Hawks, think it was Hale (like Tommy Mc last week) and that seems to have marked his cards. Would like to see him play, he has deserved a place over the last couple of years on performance at Casey and been a bit stiff to miss. Couldn't do any worse than Gillies or Pederson.

He got injured in the first practice match. He can't afford to miss any training or games, he needs all the work he can get to keep up with the lower group as far as match fitness goes.