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You always have more than one option 'Lucifer' but I think we might have been the last man standing. Just depends on what he is being paid. If he's on role player money then you don't expect a star and are pleasantly surprised if he becomes one. ...but if he's on decent cash and to me that would be around the $500k mark then you need better than a role player and someone who you think will develop.

Yes, he is...came to terms after St Kilda left the race.

You do actually, if you're prepared to look and take the chance...a list spot is a valuable commodity and not just a free hit. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-29/shaun-grigg-sacrificed-his-career-marlion-pickett-launches-his/11558086

He's not a free hit though 'Wise', he's going to take some cap space and he also takes a spot on the list. ...and that's what we're doing again with Tomlinson. A nice public school boy who plays nice football.

We need a good small forward. What pick would get him over the line???

Has to be a better bet than Tomlinson on a wing....

Tomlinson is a versatile role player because he really doesn't play that well anywhere. I know why he picked us but for the life of me I don't understand why we chased him. My opinion has been consistent on him over the years every time his name has come up. The clubs position has changed from no interest to signing him. Why? He offers us nothing that we need. He has no leg speed, he doesn't' make great decisions or use the ball well & he's not a class small, medium or tall forward. ...and he's going to take up cap space that could be better used.

Yes it is negative but I feel exactly the same way. I'm thoroughly sick of it... Todays garbage game ended a similarly garbage year.

It's also a lesson in how life can be so unfair at time. Delidio was sitting in the stands looking on.

Yep on both counts mate. A very disappointing game that I thought was over by about the 5 minute mark of the first Q. It was pretty obvious Davis wasn't up to it in his first contest with Jack...that would not be a good look for his teammates to see the Captain make the wrong call on his fitness and put himself above the team. Also sort of hindsight here but if you are going to take a player in after an operation the last one would have to be Whitfield...not exactly the poster boy of tough and uncompromising...

The irony of an advertisement for 8k TV... Yet 7 still won't show the game in 4k... I don't know about anyone else, I guess it doesn't matter that much but I'm struggling to see the game properly. ...and I've only had 1 beer. Maybe the answer is to have more...

2nd goal to Ray...what a shocking decision. No amount of explaining takes away incompetence....

There's a touch of arrogance with the Tiges bringing in Pickett for his first game. No matter what the party line the 2 boys who were pulled from a GF last week must be feeling it. They not only didn't get to play in the GF, they didn't get to audition for a spot in the big one. Must ruffle some feathers. If GWS have them covered at half time I think they (GWS) will run away with it. Richmond let teams get head starts and they have a belief in their ability to run them over. One day they are not going to come back. I hope it's this one...

Maybe, but when you are setting goals words are important. I would like to see are chiefs put their pills on the line and not just make a motherhood statement like challenging...

GC were given similar.... A tale of 2 clubs, early times it looked like GC would be the golden boys and GWS the poor cousins. Despite the gifts they were given they have done it well and set themselves up for the longer burn whereas GC tried for the quicker success. ...and they now play a tough uncompromising brand of footy. I take my hat off to Cameron for what he's done with the list, a list that has struggled with injury this year.

If he's looking at a coaching career it wouldn't hurt us to have a look for the same reasons...

...and that's why they got rid of the zones in the first place. It's such a retrograde and stupid move that only someone like Gill would oversee it.

Cheap, but not so sure that some of it is so solid...

Of the 2nd worst team in the competition...our depth is not a strong suit.

Chandler won't make it, neither will Baker, undecided on Dunkley and Lockhart maybe good depth. Nothing pleasing there for me, very underwhelming...

Are we thinking of him as a replacement for Jeffy?

Can you read 'SWYL'? Or do you only see what you want and make up the rest. There is no way in any post I have written this season that would indicate I think Jones & Viney were great in 2019. In fact I've stated numerous times that both should not be Captains next year and you've liked those posts, so I'm guessing you've read & agree. I don't think they are a major reason we crashed though, there was not just one thing. A major one for me is that the list is not as good as many thought. We're working to build it and make it better but this season shows we are not there yet...

Yep, and he's the one we need...

Yep, and when the club sent out the email to supporters about the coming forum the letter from the Prez & CEO stated we wanted to be up there and challenging for a Premiership consistently. Only words but they should really have committed to winning the thing not just challenging...

Amazing 'SWYL'...nowhere did I say I don't value leadership and I've often stated I don't think Viney is the man to lead the club forward. ...but what is more amazing is that you seem to want to use the Brownlow votes as an indication of the leadership of the club yet you don't seem to want to use the AFL ladder as the means to value the list. The AFL ladder says we are 17th, that says we are not very good. It's a pretty definitive result whichever way you want to slice it. In 2019 we weren't good enough to finish higher than 17th, that's why we finished 17th...