Norm Smith's Curse

Are we talking about our Stef Martin and thinking that somehow he has shown enough thus far to be compared to Wellingham? Petterd for Koby Stevens possible but I think a lot of our second level players have lost all currancy and may end up in the preseason draft after delisting.

We've been down this road too many times. How about looking at our recruiting under Neeld thus far - Mitch Clark - pass with flying colours - Sellar - juries out - magner - died out but did ok early.

beat me too it.

main thing yesterday was how thin he looked compared to his matchup. Lacks the body strength and thus confidence. I want to see him bulk up a lot.

Cale Morton looked great at similar levels.

That entire post is mind blowingly wrong... Name another player in the draft who is currently exceeding AFL players for disposals in the VFL? We cant use pick 4 because its Scully compo and cant be used on father son

Thank god some people know what they are talking about! Phew!

I know this is an incorrect statement and Ive heard this from people who know. Melbourne will not walk away from Viney and he is as good as ours. We are bluffing with the suggestion we wont use pick 3 for him if need be. We will because unlike all the other players in the draft he is already emotionally invested in the club and because unlike many he is a manchild and ready to play. More disposals than Moloney at Casey, etc. We WILL use pick 3 to for VIney if forced and this is the one thing I can certain of. The basis of your statement is pick predictions (which would only be relevant if players careers were always ultimately dictated by pick placement which is flawed) and off-the-cuff statements from a few at the club that you have misread. That being said using pick 3, we may not have to. We CANT (how many times can it be said) use the Scully priority picks on a father/son. So no pick 4 possible. Its pick 3 or second round. Any very ambigious statement about what MFC intend to do with picks in relation to Viney cannot be taken as catagorical primarily because there is bluff involved because we WANT him to slip through to second round. Hence the reason we did not even include his performance or stats on our website in relation to Casey.

Your not concerned by the fact that players supposedly playing for their careers had their pants completely pulled down in every department from half time. Not even a whimper?

Sack everybody! Nah seriously, brett Ratten

Or that atleast they care and will put the effort in to indicate that they are proud.

Couldnt agree more. Sad today.

Watching Brad get carried off unstabley was probably the saddest moment Ive seen in a while at a club with many sad moments in the last 12 months. Not even a whimper today. Looked ok in the first quarter but the second half was embarrassing. Slow, under skilled, poor disposal, never in the right position, kicking to a contest. It was all there once again.

1. Col Sylvia 2. Nathan Jones 3. Sam Blease 4. ??

Both he and Bail have poor disposal.

We were better when we were <allegedly> tanking...

31 disposals and counting.

Neeld apparently just got caught on camera saying 'F$%^ off'

Point is he wasnt slow last season and before draft. The training regime may be effecting him? I dont know. I hope he gets back to where he was.

Honestly I think a total rebuild is on the cards. Even the decent players just arent jelling or working - might have better opportunities elsewhere.

Im not the only one who should feel guilty today to be honest!

You hope that there is some development.

what do you mean?

I just cant work out what is wrong. Players sound like they arent applying themselves or fighting for their position. Can we really still be this bad after the whole season??

Who we beat by 100 points last year and then swapped coachs...