Jesse Christ

Fair dinkum- if I see Davey in the seniors again I will dead set spew! He is past it and it is as simple as that. His sooky demeanour makes me want to break stuff! As for Moloney and Green I'm reconsidering my want to have them dropped for this weekend. On one hand they deserve it, on the other I want to see if they can make ommends against an ultra-competitive outfit in the Eagles. I don't want to see them come back against the Tiges after pulling their finger out at Casey- I want to see their desire against a top 4 club on an away trip.

WB would have "pantsed" us with their "pathetic" effort today.

Let's just wait to see the "outs" next week first. Hopefully this earning a game because of reputation (lol) business is a thing of the past.

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=130821 these are the players who are free agents next year. Pick one. Davey and Green will not be offered another contract next year barring a minor miracle, most likely even more of our seniors will be shown the door. There's your extra salary cap space. We are widely thought of to have a promising list of youngsters, it might be the seniors we have now that is a deterant for others to join us- well hopefully that is a problem we wont have for much longer.

Everything is close to his dad- he has his own gravitational pull.

I think this is a case of guilty by association and unfair on Blease. The OP doesn't even make any sense. Who is this current demon who has leaked this info to a friend of Norm Smith's Curse and how could NSC know this without anyone at MFC hearing about it. [censored] rumour.

I was just responding to grandson's claims that a player has to want to go to a particular club in order for a deal to be done. Wave enough cash around and anything is possible.

You mean like how Clark wanted to come to Melbourne? Money talks Grandson. I'd rather pay "overs" for an established star than roll the dice on a draft prospect or relying on player development. What has player development netted us thus far? And what "overs" are we going to pay? Both compo picks? So what!

I would trade anyone apart from the names I mentioned before- maybe Moloney, Sylvia or Jamar might attract some attention. Maybe a trade to the Suns or a team looking for a big body. We should be looking for classy midfielders with pace who can get it into our forward line. That would be ideal.

Lol what a load of crap. Rumours. I've seen with my own eyes a number of players who don't want to be a Dee, and that is more worrying to me.

This breaks my heart

Just to clarify for those people playing at home- you're not being sarcastic there.

I think people are just speculating there is some kind of ill-will on Beamer's part re loss of leadership title- my theory is he just isn't that good period.

Without reading any of the thread my initial thoughts are that our players don't respect either of them. They didn't respect Bailey enough to want to put in the effort to win for him, and they don't respect Neeld enough to want to show him they are required to put in the effort to retain their spot in the team. Worst of all they don't respect the jumper. How did this great club turn into such a bunch of self indulgent bumbs I'll never know!

This is how bad things are right now- I would have scoffed at Morton and Bennell being suggested as changes. Now I'm like whateves- ring in the changes, it can't get much worse can it?

What happens if we can't develop this potential into elite mids, and who is going to show them the way? Whose example are they going to follow, who are they going to aspire to play like? Surely with free agency coming about we can find another Clark who will come over for cash. Surely with the money we save on getting rid of Green and Davey and probably even Moloney we can lure a trier over. I think part of a reason we haven't been able to develop a star is we have never really had one. When Sully came over I thought his training and football philosophies would rub off on the other youngsters but that dream is dead now. I worry for our future with current in house stocks. I noticed you didn't post yesterday btw, what were your thoughts on the game out of interest?

We need to win some bloody clearances! Can't do nought if the ball always goes from ball up to opposition forward line without a whimper!

Because it is terrible. We all know the score- same types- we have extractors with no outside class. We have flat track bullies, we have no pace and the fact that a first gamer in Magner was BOG for us yesterday is pathetic. I would keep Magner, Jones and McKenzie as they show heart. I would consider trying to turn Jones into a small forward because when Viney comes in we will have too many similar types playing mid. It's been said before but we need a star. I know they are not exactly growing on trees but if we can't draft one we are doomed to fail until our next window is open. I would put everyone on the trade table bar Jones, Frawley, Trengove, Martin, Howe, Watts, Magner and Clark. Our compo pics also. Who could we get? Who is available? Proven midfielders with leadership and heart are our number one priorities.

Don't know why so many want to drop Bate and Tynan- one came on as a sub and only played a quarter and one is a debutant who had actually had a crack- unlike most of the guys who have been sucking on the MFC teet for years.

It's Moloney, and that old chestnut- bleeds red and blue is starting to become comical. No one on the list bleeds red and blue and it's evident by the total lack of effort and disrespect of our jumper. Davey is so devoid of confidence watching him play is embarrassing. Going down the Morton route. I wouldn't drop him- I'd delist him.

Must be dropped. Pathetic. I lament over Morton's style of play and Davey is playing the same now. We can not have players who are not willing to go when it's their turn. Too many times he hangs around the contest waiting for the handball receive out the back instead of getting the pill for himself. He has lost his pace too, and that was one of his biggest weapons. Thanks for the service, delist at end of season. Same can be said for Green. The game has passed both of them by.

Rivers was OK today, other players deserve criticism before him today

That's fine, but do you have to comment on others who like to vent? It's patronizing, and you are a lot better than that!

I'm not waiting 12 rounds- this club has to win me back round 2! I have invested a lot into this club, it's time they returned some of that with a bit of effort and heart FFS! That's why I'm sick of people saying wait for this, wait for that.. I may be young but I'm sick of always waiting for something to turn. The bloody players can turn it around next week but next week never comes. I'm saying it again- wholesale changes/ improved effort and some bloody heart or I'm done! Going for a smoke, my blood is boiling!!!

Must be good to always have a level head Nasher. Get some fight in you son! Us chest beaters are passionate, I'd rather live my life with passion.