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Fair enough. I'd probably think about taking 800/1 - although the one I'd be most worried about is Melbourne making the 8. I reckon that, although Hogan isn't a mid or a super good chance of winning the Rising Star, 17/1 is an absolute steal.

All I said was that maybe he is a d!ckhead and I'd say the evidence supports that. In my experience, people who turn up in the Magis Court in the morning with no shoes, accused of pummelling strangers on the street, usually are d1ckheads, regardless of their background. I'm sure Carroll's was horrible, but grown men have no excuse for acts of random violence on the streets and I, for one, won't make excuses for them. That doesn't mean I'm sinking the boot in, I'm just being civilised. The reason I weighed back into this thread was because I wanted to read about Nathan Carroll (who, incidentally, I loved watching play), rather than the Vietnam war, movies, the anti-war movement, the damage it did to very vulnerable young men and the complete futility of the whole thing. I know all that - I read this forum for football news, not so much for history lessons (unless it is about MFC history, which is fantastic).

Or maybe he was just out on the [censored] all night and is a d!ckhead... Anyway, my point was just about the thread being derailed into the Vietnam stuff that probably has nothing to do with anything. No biggie!

Even Viney can have a session where he isn't in top form. We've all had days like that! Doens't mean a thing, in my book.

Oh, for the like button.... Like!

Soooooo, Nathan Carroll got arrested huh?

I still think that moment is one of the finest on field in our last 10 years.

You're saying you got 28/1 for that bet? Mate, you are kidding yourself. I wouldn't take 28s for us to make the 8, let alone with a couple of riders...

Love how we pick this guy out of almost complete obscurity, and all of a sudden we're all experts on him.

I always think it was a real shame he wasn't such a git, because we probably would have kept him then and bumped Jamar years ago... But he is, and we didn't.

He's a good runner, with an appalling kick (especially for goal). And he is one decent knock away from being permanently concussed. That just about sums it up for mine.

I reckon it will be almost impossible to prise most of those players away. Ben Reid would be a good pick-up if the wheels fall off at Collingwood, Heath Hocking maybe. The rest will either be retiring, retired, or too wedded to their previous club to move to Melbourne. Sign Frawley up, because he is by far and away the best target for any team on that list that has a spare 600-800k in the bag.

They are cracking photos mate, thanks.

There has to be at least four more pages in this...

Firstly, I love that this site censors the word T1T. Hilarious. Secondly, apart from those couple of people who are having it hung on them when they are going through difficult personal circumstances, the rest of you petals need to (1) settle and (2) climb down off those high horses.

It is 'Christ's', actually. As in, 'for Christ's sake'. Sorry, tried to resist, but just couldn't help myself.

It's copyright infringement. And the mods are the ones who are responsible for infringing content on the site, as far as I'm aware.

Dude, they are great pics, but FCS if they are not yours, stop posting copyrighted material. You'll have the bloody mods sued.

Typical boring, lazy journalism. What complete tripe.

These threads are usually just space fillers anyway - how many different ways can you say 'it's November and they are running laps of Gosch's Paddock in groups'?

Thank Christ. Finally, a bigger circus than us.

That is a really astounding stat, when you think about it. And a good summary of all that is Lydnen Dunn.

Yep, always the better option except for Hawthorn, Collingwood and West Coast, who all benefited handsomely from the same strategy. Carlton and Richmond, debateable whether it helped too much...

Can't believe I read two pages of this garbage before I checked the dates on the posts...

Wowser. Unless pages 3-13 perked up a bit, after reading 2 pages I'd have to say this is the worst thread in the history of internet fora.