Undeeterred

Time has passed, sadly. I still wonder, every now and then, how on earth he managed to end up as our first ruck for so many years. I think Jeff White would probably still beat him one on one...

Sooooo, guessing you never had a nickname in high school then?

This is a sensational point, just by the way. Hadn't thought of it like that before, but you're right. Our 'guns' are really top up players for the big boys, which has a disproportionate effect on us...

Good to see you posting this comment in the Age today, going for a wider audience?

It did worry me when he started on that 'bleed red and blue' junk. Exactly the type of thing someone says when they're about to march out the door.

Fantastic. I was a big critic, but he has torn it up this year and looked great. It has to be said though - when he had that beard, had to be one of the ugliest heads in football...

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of turds...

Why do all you idiots keep using basketball as a proxy for softness? Have any of you actually played?

Absolute. Bloody. Farce.

Jobe Watson, Ted Richards, Luke Ball and Dan Hannebery went to the same toffy private school. Don't hear anybody calling them soft...

Imagine what Freo and Adelaide are going to do to us in a couple of weeks... Not to mention Gold Coast up there next week!

Thank God for Foxtel. If the league didn't have to broadcast nine games each week, they would literally just let us fold.

Pedo chased the little guys. Lovely.

How embarrassing.

Interesting to look at who's getting most of the footy to date: N Jones Viney Pedersen M Jones Clisby Byrnes Trengove Grimes Kent Terlich Says something about Howe, Dunn, Sylvia and Watts, who are supposed to be leaders!

We really shouldn't have so obviously tanked to get our priority pick at the end of this year... Playing like this, people will definitely get suspicious.

Oh dear.

Sorry, but you seem to be saying in your first two posts that Watts, Frawley, Garland, Grimes, Sylvia and Jones should go because they played in the Geelong game. That's probably the most mental thing you've said on this forum.

And I can name 7 of that bunch who won't, or shouldn't be here next year, too.

Just breaking down the situation, in terms and language I was asked to use, for people too thick to get it.

In 'business' terms, the 'regulator' forces MFC to spend a particular amount each year 'renting' its 'assets'. If MFC doesn't pay rent on one asset, it must spend on another. If you can realistically show us how we could go to the 'market' and 'procure' an asset for the price for which we are renting Mitch Clark, let's have it. Business enough for you?

BB - you never answered my question, even though I answered all of yours. If you get rid of Mitch Clark, as you suggest, where does his $800k go? I suppose we could give it to Sylvia, or pay Daisy Thomas $1.5 mil to come over, for example, but given we struggle to make the minimum TPP anyway, I'd probably just take the punt that Clark has a few years left in him, until proven otherwise. Now, I am on record as saying I don't think he'll play again. But what list change can you suggest, which uses his salary and is realistic, that improves us? Once you sack him, you can never get him back. Plus, what message does that send others coming along - as soon as you get injured, we'll cut you loose.

Not at all. I addressed your 'having to pay someone' comment in my response to old dee, and then responded to the rest of your misguided ideas separately. Happy to be told I'm missing something though.

Firstly, the business we are running is part of a competition whose rules say that a certain amount of money MUST be spent. You're not taking account of the environment the football club is in, it is completely different to what you would call 'business' and I'm not advocating paying unnecessary wages if you are running, say, a small business. That's not comparing apples with apples. Secondly, and I reiterate, who else would you be paying - who is the 'someone who can'? The truck load of free agents we had last season just begging to come to Melbourne? Get real!

I completely agree - we should be able to pay about 50% of the cap, rather than front loading anyone, but that's the system as it stands.