Queanbeyan Demon

I would have thought 12 flags and 12 wooden spoons compares favourable against 1 flag and 27 wooden spoons.

"this joint" . . . as in the MFC? Nowhere near as bad as Linton Street I would have thought.

Woo hoo . . . buzzword bingo!

Just get all involved to watch a jordon peterson video. Done.

hey DZ . . . your avatar looks like he's pushing out a big . . . . . . . . . .

Amusing. Lewis is one of the prime suspects when it comes to letting the club down i would have thought.

The business case explained There’s been a lot written here and elsewhere about Goodwin’s contract length and immediate short-term tenure. Here are four facts, and two estimates, that I would suggest will drive the thinking of the Club’s board over the next 12 months. The figures quoted are in the Club’s 2018 Annual Report and are the most recent publicly available. Fact 1 Melbourne’s revenue in 2018 from football related actives was $44.8M. Fact 2 The AFL guarantees to cover player costs and other related expenses regardless of on-field performance. In 2018 this figure was $16.3M Fact 3 Revenue in 2018 from Football related activities that the club has influence over, by dint of its on-field performances, was $27.5M. Here’s the breakdown. Gate receipts $6,180,742 Merchandise $1,081,232 Membership, annual reserved seating and general fundraising $9,009,525 Sponsorship & corporate hospitality $11,287,779 Other revenue $922,363 The financial impact of 2019’s poor on-field performance could well be felt by drops in revenue across four of the line items above (i.e. gate receipts, merchandise, membership/reversed seating/gen fundraising and sponsorship/corporate). Estimate 1 According to reports today, Ross Lyon’s contract in 2019, based on Freemantle’s on-field performance, is worth 600K. It wouldn’t be unreasonable to assume Goodwin is receiving something similar. Estimate 2 The cost of paying Goodwin out, should the Club move on him in the next 12 moths, would be somewhere between $1.2 and $1.8 million. This estimate assumes that the pay-out would be the equivalent of the contact's balance (assuming base payment). Discussion The Club’s on-field performance directly effects, or puts at risk, part of the $27.5M in revenue (based on 2018 figures). We can assume that a good year may well increase this revenue while a poor year will almost definitely have a negative consequence. By any measure 2019 has been a poor year and it would be reasonable to anticipate that revenue from club related activities will fall. The question is, by what amount? A five per cent fall in 2019 will mean a loss of $1.377M against the 2018 figure, while a 10 per cent fall will mean $2.755M. And this doesn't factor in opportunity costs . . . that is, revenue anticipated over and above the 2018 result that will also be foregone. The problem the Club has is that this is now a ‘sunk-cost’. That is, the money is already gone and removing Goodwin now will not recover the 2019 financial situation. However . . . and presumably this is the Board’s current focus . . . If the Club doesn’t improve its on-field performance in 2020 by a substantial amount, the financial losses seriously mount. Another year where revenue is likely to be seriously down on 2018 levels makes the financial case for removing the coach pretty strong. It simply becomes a business decision. That is, the cost of keeping the coach versus removing him in order to stem the bleeding. For example, if the club has a poor year again in 2020, the potential losses over 2019/20 seasons compared to the 2018 season could well be in excess of $2.7M. It makes the case for removing the coach at a cost of $1.5M (assuming he goes during the bye in 2020) a no-brainer. Conclusion Few people want harm to come to the Club or Goodwin. However, a year like this one in 2020 is going to be traumatic for one party or the other. And that’s fact number four.

Note to self . . . ban theeself from Demonland.

he's only worth a couple of goals a game in a functional side . . . no room at melb.

Hello ‘Landers, Where are we, as individuals, on the Kubler-Ross scale ‘Five Stages of Grief’? The scale is used to describe the stages a person progress through when confronted with a terminal illness. With respect to the current rebuild, it’s now clear that the Deez are terminally ill and another opportunity for a flag has been pizzed up against the proverbial wall. The five stages of grief are as follows. . . . Denial – The first reaction is denial. In this stage, individuals believe the diagnosis is somehow mistaken, and cling to a false, preferable reality. Anger – When the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue, they become frustrated, especially at proximate individuals. Certain psychological responses of a person undergoing this phase would be: "Why me? It's not fair!"; "How can this happen to me?"; "Who is to blame?"; "Why would this happen?". Bargaining – The third stage involves the hope that the individual can avoid a cause of grief. Usually, the negotiation for an extended life is made in exchange for a reformed lifestyle. People facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek compromise. Examples include the terminally ill person who "negotiates with God" to attend a daughter's wedding or an attempt to bargain for more time to live in exchange for a reformed lifestyle. Depression – "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "I'm going to die soon, so what's the point?"; "I miss my loved one; why go on?" During the fourth stage, the individual despairs at the recognition of their mortality. In this state, the individual may become silent, refuse visitors and spend much of the time mournful and sullen. Acceptance – "It's going to be okay."; "I can't fight it; I may as well prepare for it." In this last stage, individuals embrace mortality or inevitable future, or that of a loved one, or other tragic event. People dying may precede the survivors in this state, which typically comes with a calm, retrospective view for the individual, and a stable condition of emotions. So where are you today?

Knowledgeable 'Landers . . . Who wins this?

I'll pay for his one way airline ticket.

It's not how many we do or don't get . . . it's where you get 'em that counts.

Look SWYL . . . Tone is cheap at double the price for this task. And if he performs well and does find Roos and PJ responsible for the current malaise, I suggest he undertaken further related investigations. Was Bradman's unavailable what cost us the Cricket World Cup earlier this month?

Undoubtedly would have had an impact I would have thought SWYL. And I think Dee Dubya is onto something . . . I'd have Tony head up the inquiry. Can't think of a more qualified fellow.

Look . . . your analysis is spot on Hellofatime. But you're only scratching the surface. I think an independent review is required to investigate the role that Russian interference plays in the minds of the players and officials, the ongoing influence of the global financial crisis, the untimely and tragic death of Lady Dianna Spencer, the long term consequence of the Chappaquiddick incident on the club and how the Bay of Pigs has psychologically scared the organisation for decades. Only then can we be confident we have gotten to the bottom of this fiasco.

Look yous lot . . . you're very hard to please. Ed will be terrific for us. We can improve his disposal just like we did with . . . . um?

Meth Coke were paying $1.53. Brilliant odds for a sure thing in a two horse race.

top job dl. thanks.

MFC - dumb football club

I take your point EO. It's well made. Do you think there is still room for plain language English though? For example, "James . . . FFS, please don't kick it on top of Weed's head?"

Clearly you posters know absolutely nothing about footy. Goody told us many times that there's a "problem with connection". In order to get passed these weasel words, I went and looked up 'connection' in the dictionary (see definitions below). Having worked through this, I am much better informed. It's clear to me now what Goody means . . . "I haven't got a pissant clue so I'll talk a lot of euphemistic BS that'll make supporters eyes glaze over and impress the Club's board". God knows what the players think when they hear this cr%p. 1. the act or state of connecting. 2. the state of being connected:the connection between cause and effect. 3. anything that connects; a connecting part; link; bond:an electrical connection. 4. association; relationship:the connection between crime and poverty; no connection with any other firm of the same name. 5. a circle of friends or associates or a member of such a circle. 6.association with or development of something observed, imagined, discussed, etc.:to make a connection between the smell of smoke and the presence of fire; I have a few thoughts in connection with your last remarks. 7. contextual relation; context, as of a word. 8. the meeting of trains, planes, etc., for transfer of passengers:There are good connections between buses in Chicago. 9. Often connections. a transfer by a passenger from one conveyance to another:to miss connections. 10. a specific vehicle, airplane, ship, etc., boarded in making connections:My connection for Hartford is the 10:58. 11. a relative, especially by marriage or distant blood relationship. 12. Slang. a person who sells drugs directly to addicts. 13.a source of supply for goods, material, etc., that is scarce, difficult, or illegal to obtain:a connection to obtain guns and ammunition for the rebels. 14. a group of persons who are connected, as by political or religious ties. 15.Usually connections. associates, relations, acquaintances, or friends, especially representing or having some influence or power:European connections; good connections in Congress. 16. a religious denomination:the Methodist connection. 17. a channel of communication:a bad telephone connection. 18. sexual intercourse.

The fact that Pruess is not in our best 29 is an indictment on Goodwin's coaching, not the player's football ability.

Easily the most amusing observation on the thread.

Analysis of the week award right there.