Pennant St Dee

Love the man and what he has done for this club, he will never give in!

So if your a lawyer and in Perth we may have crossed paths!

WYL you like me have unfortunatley never seen the holy grail but hopefully (I believe) the day is coming. Not sure you were alive when we won one didn't say what age you were in 1971 all I can tell you about 71 is that summer I went to the Kilkenny Beer Festival in my dad and came home in my mum. So no Premiership in my lifetime but feeling good about all the changes since 2008 and 2011 was just a bump in the road

We are not in the premiership window, lets be honest and good times are ahead this team will click somthing similar to the way we did towards the end of the 1987 season, problem is we just don't know when that will be. There will be players out there who Neelds has identified as plugging holes in our list, we may have them holes filled by our young KPPS in a year or two but we may need to draft/trade for a temporary fix till they come through. There is no harm in doing this once you don't do a Carlton and trade pick 11 for a Mclean, I'm thinking more along the lines of picking up honest players who you know what your going to get from them every week. Not talking about picking up these players but ones who along these lines are not stars but play the percentages and do their job within the team structure, a Leigh Brown, Ted Richards, Firrito, Dom Cassissi, Jordan Lewis, Dale Morris and Beau Watters. I am sure there are some guys on AFL lists not getting look ins who could give us the hardness we need

Sumich is another Damien Drum under no circumstances should we let him anywhere near our club Forwards- John Barker or Leigh Brown Defenders - Max Hudgton, Adam Simpson or Brady Rawlings

Absolutley no way, Sumich is an absolute dud, might have been able to play the game but in regards to knowledge and tactics the guy has NFI he was laughable at South Fremantle as coach in 98/99 had access to Freo's AFL listed players along with probably the best WAFL list and was outcoached on numerous occassions, got the 99 side to GF where they were raging favourites and got shown up for the dud he is on the day

Take your medication

Old dee I may be wrong here but I believe what they are saying is along the lines which I am thinking. I dont think Long term drafting of Cook was an error Darling is as big as he is going to get and he is also as good as he is going to get. There is a lot of tall timber in that Eagles forward line so naturally he has been well assisted. I have seen him play for a number of years so believe I can judge him farily accuratley. 6 Clubs who overlooked Rhys Palmer in the 2007 draft were slated but look at them now If Cook does not surpass Darling then I will tilt my hat to you I am just glad we draft with foresight not for the now

With less than a month left before the trade period which incorporates the mini draft for 17 year olds, it's worth looking at the prime candidates among this young group. There are two of them and the main one is 182cm 75 kg Jaegar O'Meara from Perth who starred in last year's WAFL Grand Final booting four goals for WAFL club, Swan Districts Hate to be podantic but it was Stephen Coniglio who kicked the 4 goals for Swan Districts in that Final and he is in this years draft and will go in top 3 to GWS, he was interviewed on ABC on the weekend and has already had the tour of Breakfast Point. I think we may head down the Hawthorn line which Pelchen did of recruiting hard players, O'Meara comes with good wraps but well known in WA he not keen to head east so may be a big go home factor for him. If Crouch is what they say he is it may be better targetting him although I would not rule out sorting the O'Meara trade out and swapping it with WCE for Gaff!

Seen him play for East Perth this year a couple of times and he has played well, but WAFL players who I have seen who have really stood out for mine, Luke Blackwell (Ex Blues), Mark Hutchins (Ex Saints), Kyle Horsley, Kane Mitchell and there are some other boys like Ian Richardson, Ross Young & Jason Salecic who have stood up for years in the league and have bigger bodies for the middle but time has probably passed them by.

Jesse White would be like Dawes if he was in the Collingwood forward line playing alongside Cloke and getting the service off that midfield. My point being White will offer the same and will cost less in trade and less in salary. Would not break the bank for either of them but White could be a good fix while we wait for our young KPP'S to develop

Wouldn't say I am asexcited about next year as much as I am about 2013. This is a great get for the club which along with the natural development of players should see big benefits for our boys. All the talk over here in WA when Ross Lyon came across was the hope he would be bringing David Mission over with him. They say a week is a long time in footy I like what Garry, Schwab, Mclardy and the board have done. Kept everything in house no leaks and would not comment on any of the coaching rumours, very professional and now we can see a lot was being done behind the scenes. Forgotten all about the doom and gloom people were talking up when a former player followed the big schilachos on offer last week 2011 may well have been the kick in the guts we needed

I'm like the rest looking forward to 2012 and beyond, however lets remember he as he has said will change things and game plans etc. I just hope we don't have the usual people from this site starting sack Neeld threads just because things haven't clicked straight away

I have not seen any of Crouch or know much about him but one thing I do know is that O'Meara has a very bad case of OP that has hampered his development this year so if we do get him we can spend next year getting his body right

Thanks for that close the door when you leave please. Cmon Dees!

So your ruling out Malthouse

It's Hagdorn again so it aint happening. All it tells us is he watched TFS last night

Yep they will decide to walk, soccer requires you to have played it almost your whole life so WTF they are going to make a decision at 5 years of age, I want to play soccer because I can't play AFL until I am 21. Those in the AFL below 180cm will play basketball and the Jack Watts, Gysberts, Dale Thomas types are going to play rugby Give me a break, if it is brought in do you think the kids currently between 5 & 15 are going to stop playing junior footy

+ 1 WELL ALMOST The only thing I feel Lyon should have done was advise Saints on Monday he was going to move on, no one would have been alerted to the Dockers job as at that stage there were only 3 clubs looking for a senior coach, the media frenzy would have went into "Lyon to Dees" On the Tuesday or late Monday, Freo should have had the decency to sit Harvey down and tell him his contract was to be terminated. He has been a loyal servant to the club and they owed him that The conflict of interest with CPE looking after both Harvey & Lyon was the difference in all of this, had MFC been involved it would have been different Ross Lyon came across well in the press conference IMO., basically spelt it out I asked Saints to negotiate in April which they declined and the first time they offered him a contract was on Wednesday. Fremantle advised the press they first approached Lyon on September 4th and after that they had two meetings/discussions, so decision is made they were the first to approach him. Once I advised the board I spoke with Reiwoldt on the phone and drove to Lenny Hayes place to tell them of my decision and reasons. WA journalists have it pretty easy but he chewed them up today and spat them out

Lets stop worrying about other clubs who gives a f#%k, all I care about is the MFC

Neil Craig was good at getting his sides ready so far as conditioned physically and mentally and had some strange methods (hence why he was often referred to as the nutty pofessor) He is however IMHO not a great game day coach, opposed to RL who I think along with MM as the best game day coaches in the AFL I don't know who will be our next coach but Garry's silence tells me the decision has been made or that he is supremely confidant about something. Ask yourself do we go all out and put all our eggs into getting Mick and have no quids leftover to surround him with quality assistants or Do you go with the best assistant available Burns, Neeld, Sanderson whoever and have the money left over to surround them with experienced assistants eg Craig, Laidley or others out there and grab some other assistants with fresh ideas from other clubs I don't know the answer but all I know is clubs picking coaches all took gambles on untried coaches with Roos, Lyon, Malthouse, Clakson, the Scott brothers and even pre dimentia Sheeds

+ 1 thats exactly the way I heard it, let Barrett hear what he wanted to hear and just kept talking about another topic

It doesn't say anything about the MFC, striker it says to me you are a panic merchant It says Ross Lyon was looking solely towards securing his future and started making his own deals 5 weeks ago, if the saints really wanted him that bad they would have offered him a big contract whenSaints were on that winning run, they only really sat down with him ove the last few days when the media frenzy led them to believe he was coming to us It says Ross Lyon didn't trust Craig Kelly enough to keep the Dockers interest to himself as he also manages Harvey and it also says Freo bypassed Kelly also to make sure nothing got out It says Freo are aware there window wont be open much longer either, Pavlich, McPharlin and Mundy are their main players and all in the twilight of their careers. I have seen plaenty of their kids at WAFL level and a lot of them just aren't up to it It says the murmurings in Perth about player unrest at Freo with some eratic coaching decisions and his management of players returning from injury had a lot of truth to them It says having a mining giant like Woodside as your major sponsor means you can pay ridiculous amounts for a coach and it also says the only person who comes out of this with their credibility in tact is Mark Harvey, had his side not been decimated by injury this year they would have made the 8 and this thread would not be in existance

A good reason to up the draft age to 20/21 years that way Clubs wont be drafting on potential alone Players can complete school and finish Uni or an apprenticeship and then have something to fall back on The players can play WAFL, VFL,SANFL whatever league whilst finishing school, uni & apprenticeships and be earning money as well as developing an understanding of how hard the ordinary working man has it. The players will come in with bigger bodies and plenty of games behind them I can see this my improve the ridiculous scnario we have no where 21/22 year olds come straight out of school at 18 into the AFL system without any regard for the average fan/worker do the initial two year contract then all of a sudden they are having big dollars thrown at them and really they are still only kids

If Malthouse is coming through some handshake agreement already arranged I am quite sure he will be all over trade week anyway