Rob Mac......

6 Watts 5 Peder 4 Petracca 3 Oliver 2 Frost 1 TMac Salem Lewis Viney all great too.

6 Hibberd 5 Watts 4 Oliver 3 Hunt 2 Frost 1. Tracc

We'd have won the last 2 games with someone half decent instead of Sam Weideman. 5 posessions today, 4 last week, missing marks, weak at ground level, missed a gimme goal after his free kick in Q4. Looks uncomfortable and unconfident. Their final goal came after a Weideman turnover. He must be dropped. Very frustrated here folks.

Don't recall having seen it before OD, and i agree it shouldn't be happening with Weed now. In fact last week I'd have had Spencer in for Weed. Even Spencer'd have been a better forward, as would Max, plus Watts would have given us the forward class all day that we needed. Also with a good relieving 2nd ruck, Max would have been run a little less ragged giving a slight chance he may not have even been injured. Running a player ragged slightly increases their chance of injury.

Good changes, but also Pedersen could have been in for Weed (since last week). I'm happy it shows that Oscar is not considered a protected species like Dawes was forever and Weed seems to be lately.

Watts is playing very well, but beaten in the ruck.. Wish Spencer was there. They're killing us in the air. Both sides really trying hard

6 Jones 5 Salem 4 Garlett 3 TMac 2 Gawn 1. Jetta

Hello Buck. The "watchafl" thing is working fine here in Los Angeles. I'm watching Brisbane now (Stef Martin is killing atm) and watching the Saints/WC game. I'm not sure it's an actual "App" though because I don't open an app to use it, i just go to the "watchafl..." site on my browser and select the game to stream through the browser. (Happy to try to answer any questions, but will sleep soon , its 3:18 AM here now) Good luck.

6. Vince 5. Gawn 4. Jones 3. Oliver 2. Lewis 1. Hogan

Omac cost goal

I agree "Poita". I watched Gawn and Newmans in car conversation while trying to eat ! Big mistake.

Don't know much about Donovan, but he was here in LA forever, probably still here? Knew another English bass player who worked with him. Yes mate, back in LA for awhile. No plans to return to Oz atm, but will let you know. Think Dees will have a better year. Been meaning to call a girlfriend in Melb whose good friend is friends with a certain mfc player that far far far too many DL posts/threads are about. Curious to hear if she has any personal gossip about his ridiculously over-publicized current scenario. Really hope it all works out great for him. Cheers

Oh yeah, cool bass line. Oh he was in "Sky" with John Williams. I knew their other guitarist, Kevin Peek.

Well I'm prepared to risk seeing another game with you "rjay", couldn't end much worse than our last, in a daze walking out of the G. But we've won every game I've seen with Hardtack! Herbie Flowers wasn't a bassist I was thinking of, but think we were at a studio in London once.? Older guy who plays jazz & rock stuff right? Will Phone you next time I come to Oz! Cheers - R

Dazzle, I'm not sure that you understand that I agree with you on every single point you just made, including dropping Jack if he's not performing. Of course I'm 100% behind Goodwin setting high standards and kicking anyone in the a$$ who needs it etc.. My entire point is: What is the benefit of playing this out in public as opposed to behind closed doors, leaving the public out of it? My post suggested that Goody tell the media, "We're resting Jack for a few games to try some new players out," while kicking his backside as much as needed, away from the media. Surely you've noticed the microscope that only Jack has been under for years now? I know you know football Dazzle, but do you have much professional experience handling the media and performers? I assume we all want the best result for our team, it's just whether we get that by publicly berating one guy all the time?

John Giblin did play bass with John Martyn (though don't recall his mentioning it). He invited me to play with some others back then. Giblin played with Brand X, Peter Gabriel (think I helped him get that one), Phil Collins, Kate Bush, Simple Minds, Peter Erskine, various acts from africa, europe, all kinds of music. A superb team player. Don't remember Colin Hodgkinson. Must look him up. Didn't know you were in UK then.

Hahaha Love your work Fifty-5. Nice edit

Hahaha Spot on mate, Tim, Hardtack, HT (what do you call someone on DL if you personally know them?) Every game we've seen together we won! The only game I ever saw with another Demonlander (rjay) was our worst thrashing of the year. Coincidence? You be the judge!

Good post Lord T. The club is not at all obliged to explain anything about inner workings of the team to the football world and we're better off keeping them in the dark. In 63 years of watching footy, I've never seen a single player from any team put under the microscope and publicly flogged anywhere near as much and unfairly as Jack Watts has been from day one ! It's been emotional abuse and Jack's admirable handling of it doesn't mean any of us know that it hasn't hurt him deeply and hurt his playing. Many here assume it's water off a ducks back to Jack, but we don't really know that. Roos handled Jack well (kind/supportive) and got results. Even if Jack came back run down, drunk, stoned, with several hookers on the go and told Goodwin to shove it when confronted (none of which probably happened) I think they should have publicly said: "We're resting Jack for a few games to try some new players out." No drama. Privately they should have told him the truth and worked to remedy whatever problem they perceived. Keep the opposition guessing.

Well I'm just really relieved that "this isn't another thread about Jack Watts. "

Apologies for my late reply Earl, haven't posted on DL since then! Would like to have, but didn't work professionally with either of those two. Did play with about 30 bass players 1974 - 1978 in the UK and thought the best in the land was John Giblin. Way under rated, infectious grooves, great listener etc.. Cheers - R

Thanks mate, you too! (.err lets not mention that match we met at!)

Hi HT and rjay. Yes, back then I thought "In the Court of the Crimson King" was a great album! Greg was one of the first people I met after moving to London in 1974. John Wetton came over for a jam one day. Sorry they've gone. Starting to feel a bit old now.

I'd have preferred they wait another year before doing this, but what do I know? NJ is always going to sound proffesional about the situation, he's a real team oriented fellow. I can't discern his inner feelings from this, he'll do whatever's best for MFC.

SEN is previewing each AFL club's best 22. This is their opinion on the MFC:- 2017 AFL PREVIEW: MELBOURNE’S BEST 22 B: Michael Hibberd, Tom McDonald, Neville Jetta HB: Bernie Vince, Oscar McDonald, Jayden Hunt C: Dom Tyson, Jordan Lewis, Clayton Oliver HF: Christian Petracca, Sam Weideman, Dean Kent F: Jack Watts, Jesse Hogan, Jeff Garlett Foll: Max Gawn, Jack Viney, Nathan Jones INT: Jake Melksham, Christian Salem, Angus Brayshaw, Aaron vandenBerg Yes I'm unconfident of Sam and Oscar and would prefer Peder and probably Frost in for them.