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But Watts hasn't played his year as a 21 year old yet. That is this year! Therefore let’s look at current players goal output in their third season: Jack Riewoldt: 32 Nick Riewoldt: 30 Franklin: 73 Cloke: 39 Hurley: 27 Hawkins: 34 J. Brown 14 Pavlich: 10 Apart from Franklin, nothing exactly earth shattering there! I somehow don't remember 2000 articles being written on how rubbish these guys were though...

Trying to work out if this is a joke or not? You don't honestly buy into what the media say that much do you!?!?

Saw that Garry Ablett Snr was there too.

I would take 100 development games if it was followed by 100 as the best player in the league.

Just having a look through the Top 50's since 1990. Interesting that every year from 1990-1996 Garry Lyon was in the top 50, then every year from 1997-2004 David Nietz was in it. Shows we were a team with a true marking forward for well over a decade. Also worth noting that just like this year, only 1 Melbourne player made the Top 50 in the year 2000. Maybe we could have a surprise brownlow medalist and a grand final to look forward to this year!!??

I can no longer stand Dennis and Bruce. They're like a couple of old men rambling on about tattooes and hair cuts and forgetting we are trying to watch the footy!!

44 Irish jumpers (unsigned) went on sale at the demonshop at 5pm yesterday for $200 and are already sold out. The worn signed jumpers will sell for far more I would think.

Please do not use any proof with your argument. It is better if we make statements such as Jack needs to attack it way harder have an impact have urgency to get involved impart some physicality attack the contest. be less timid get aggro crash packs impose himself step up show some desire show some guts show some intensity get committed find the hunger have some ambition have more drive push harder It doesn’t matter if all the stats show he is taking contested marks, getting more possessions laying more tackles and kicking goals at the same rate as some of the best in league at his age.... no tangible evidence allowed!!

And it will be Jack's fault, for not going hard enough at the contest...

Malthouse is going to love taking credit for Jack's career when he is dominating . A few on here will say it was the kick Jack needed. The smart ones will know it was always coming and Jack didn't need a completely un-warranted and un-fair bashing he has got in the media not only this week but from 5 minutes into his career.

Completely agree. Jack is going to be a disliked player for the rest of his career and a player that opposition supporters are going to stick the boot into at every opportunity. It's going to be great seeing him rip games apart, win them off his own boot and stick it up em!!

Thanks mate, blokes at work didn't believe these.

Where did you find these stats?

In 2015 Watts will be collecting his third All-Australian and will be starting to be compared with demons greats.

AFL 1. ABLETT 2. FRANKLIN 3. JUDD 4. N. RIEWOLDT 5. J. SELWOOD DEES 1. MOLONEY 2. JONES 2. FRAWLEY 3. WATTS 5. TRENGOVE

I know stats aren't everything, but still accross the board it stacks up..... 2011: Contested Marks: Jack Watts: 26 Michael Hurley: 23 Marks I50: Jack Watts: 18 Michael Hurley: 26 Goal Assists: Jack Watts: 12 Michael Hurley: 13 Tackles: Jack Watts: 53 Michael Hurley: 24 He really isn't tracking as bad as people make out.... he just has a high profile.

Don't believe the Essendon hype. Hurley will be a good player but has done no more than Jack has to date. In 2011 Hurley did not once get more than 20 possession and managed more than 5 marks on only 9 occasions. In 2011 Jack got 20 plus possessions 6 times and managed more than 5 marks 16 times. All Hurley manages to do it kick a few more goals against bottom 8 teams.

$1250 maybe a bit much for a rag to clean the car wheels... http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MELBOURNE-DEMONS-TOM-SCULLY-DEBUT-SIGNED-GUERNSEY-/280826383951?pt=AU_Sport_AFL_Memorabilia&hash=item41628e8e4f

Bit different, but these were the table names at my wedding a couple of years ago: Table 1: Norm Smith Table 2: Rodney Grinter Table 3: Jim Stynes Table 4: Allen Jackovich Table 5: David Schwartz Table 6: Aaron Davey Table 7: Robbie Flower Table 8: Garry Lyon Table 9: Ron Barassi Table 10: David Neitz

I think Gys in his third year will surprise a lot of people and play most games. I think Watts will be pushing for All Australian and I think Jurrah will kick 60+ goals with Clarke giving him a chop out.

Since when do the Police ring your work if your in trouble? On a Sunday no less!

So if he works his a*se off, trains the house down then has a couple of ripping pre season games we sit him out in round one for something 6 months earlier?

Still have both Scully picks too!!!

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