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There’s still the potential to get pick one if a rejuvenated North wins a game and goes past them. That’s an incentive. Edit: particularly if North get a priority pick and push WC to pick 3.

I think our situation is different to West Coast in that we were a FAR worse team than WC is now. They have to try harder to lose, the thing that always frustrated me about the MFC tanking debate was people talk as if that team was going to win multiple games if we played differently, no way, at most it was one game. I was at all those games, we couldn’t have beaten anyone most of the time, we were genuinely horrific. West Coast on the other hand have multiple premiership players and AA players being played out of position or rested and no fine at all. This WC team is capable of shaking things up if they genuinely try for the next five weeks, but they won’t, as they have flagged, they’ll call it ‘experimentation’ but it’s tanking. And it’s far worse than what MFC did, we were a terrible team that had been down for a very long time trying to get extra help, they are a team that’s been up forever trying to stock up on top end talent quick and then all of a sudden fly back up the ladder. Just like the pies did for Daisy and co.

May has had at least 5 out on the full since his return, also the shocking turnover where he missed Bowey 15m away that led to the goal against Brisbane. He’s not been terrible, but by his lofty standards his kicking and poise are well off. He needs to get that back. Jackson needs to lift also, hasn’t been taking marks since his return.

I think our best is the best in it. At the moment Geelong are the team to beat, but they’re running at their absolute peak, Danger is back, Selwood is playing well, Stanley is playing great footy, Blitsalvs also, De Koenig + Stengel are a revelation etc. all that is fine. Can they sustain it? When will the spate of calf injuries hit? Even their best is not as good as our best. We have the most upside of any team in the comp. Atm Max and Luke have been out of the team/off their best form for weeks. Max’s last best form game was Sydney, Luke Brisbane, if both hit their straps again, look out! They got towelled up by Stanley against Geelong, I’m betting that won’t happen again. Salem is building but well off his best, his kicking is just not back to its best yet, the grubber to Lever this week is the prime example, if he gets back to his best look out! May also, he’s missing more kicks than usual and is taking less marks. Lever showed what he is capable of against Brisbane and if he brings that in finals we’ll smash it. Trac has built back to near his best the last few weeks but there’s more to go, Clayton was down against Geelong but he’ll be back, Viney has been ok but needs to stop bombing right footed kicks straight up in the air. Kozzie just got back into his best form for the first time this year. Frittata is showing glimpses but has more. Brown lifted for Geelong and was ok against Port but needs to kick straighter. Langdon is building back to his best but has been a little off the last few weeks, by his own admission. Our role players ANB, Spargo, Bedford, Sparrow, Harmes, Hibberd have all shown glimpses but can offer far more. In fact I would argue only Brayshaw and Jordon have consistently played their best over the past month. That’s a huge upside for a team that is 13-4 sitting in second. I’m hoping we get it all clicking again and smash these last five rounds, but even if we don’t, what is effectively a home final against Geelong at the G, or, less likely but possible, Collingwood or Carlton doesn’t scare me at all. 3rd or 4th playing a Melbourne team is fine, even playing interstate I believe we can beat anyone at our best, but I want to be there! If we win the next two top four is assured and from there I would dare anyone to count the Dees out in the finals, no matter what happens the last three games. Our best is THE BEST we just need to bring it.

I think if Weid can’t get back in the team while TMac is out and JVR is being developed this year he’s probably either going to request a trade or move to another position. If LJ goes our list is light on for talls who can ruck so I don’t think we’d want to lose him, but he’ll be behind JVR for a forward spot and would need to work hard to perfect that second ruck/forward spot (that interestingly Gawny said was his best position on Gus and Gawny last week). I don’t think his time is up, we still need talls, but with a sore Ben Brown with Petty as his competition and no TMac he’s not going to get much better opportunities and he’ll need to show something better than he has over the next run of weeks. If Lever is out Petty needs to play back though so Sam might get another shot.

If Petty comes in for Lever he probably won’t be thrown forward. We’d be too light on for tall backs, especially with Naughton, Bruce and English down there. If Lever is good to go then Petty and Clarry could come in for Melksham and Bedford with Petty to play forward, Clarry to the middle and Sparrow back to more HF.

Great info thanks! I seem to recall Petty being a bit of a shining light as a forward in 2019 when everything was going pear shaped? His goal kicking let him down a bit but he showed a lot that year. EDIT: Had a look at the stats Harry played 10 games, mainly as a forward in 2019. He took 43 marks and kicked 6 goals 5 behinds. Not great, not bad, he’s a much better more confident player now, it would be interesting.

Sorry I got this slightly wrong, I have a Melksham out for Clarry, Tomlinson out for Petty. But you might be right Bedford might come out for Clarry. Statistically though they’re actually very similar Melk 6 disposals, Bedford 5, Melksham 18 pressure acts, Bedford 17. Melksham laid 5 more tackles, had two more score involvements (4-2) and kicked a goal. So on that one game he stays in, however I think Bedford has more upside based on his last few games so it might be a close call. Maybe if we decide to go taller and bring in a JVR or Weid both will miss? With Maxy and Dogga both down on contested marking atm maybe this will happen? You’re right about Spargo, my initial impression after the game was that his disposal was well off and his pressure was lacking. But watching it again and looking at the stats I’m wrong, he had a few misses by foot and only laid one tackle, which is low for him, but overall he played a solid game, he’s ahead of Bedford and Melk.

Who’s spot do you see him taking though? I’m excited to see the kid but coming into the year he was called a wing/mid. Ed Langdon is close to our most valuable player at his best and James Jordon has arguably been our most consistent player this year. He’s not replacing either of them. I’m excited to see Howes, and if he debuts he will have earned it with our list, but I’d think it’s unlikely, Woey has put together some pretty strong performance over the year, Laurie is super close, Chandler also, Dunstan, Melksham, Bedford, there’s a few that have runs on the board for the year that’d be ahead of him. I hope he gets some development into him, plays out an undefeated Casey season with a flag and comes into pre-season gunning for the seniors. The injuries or drop in form that would be required for him to play round 22 would also worry me. I hope our 22 gets back to its best footy and stays relatively settled the rest of the season, with Oliver and Petty in for Melk and Tomlinson and no other changes this week we’re as close to our best 22 as we’ve been all season. The only wildcard is TMac.

Interesting, so you have Bedford coming out for Oliver? Tomlinson staying in as Medi-sub? Where’s Bowey? Emergency? I think Bedford probably stays in and Spargo goes out for what it’s worth, regardless, that’s a very strong VFL side with a lot of players pushing hard for seniors. Super keen to see Howes, coming into the season Gawny had him as mostly likely to debut this year. Huge wraps, hope he goes well!

Petty was confirmed as coming back in Selwyn’s injury update video. Makes it interesting. For me: In: Oliver, Petty Out: Melksham, Tomlinson Both outs are stiff, they were ok. I thought going small was looking good after the Brisbane game but with Max and Luke a bit down on their contested marking there might be a spot for Weid or JVR. Especially with the dogs backs not so great against tall forwards. I’d prefer JVR on form but Weid is experienced so might get the nod. If we go bigger I think Spargo goes out, his main asset, his kicking, is off, and Bedford is applying more pressure and x-factor.

I think this is our best 22 for now. With the possible exception of TMac returning this is a super strong side. Let’s get the job done!

True. But there’s something poetic about a Hawthorn vs GWS game being the most irrelevant game of the weekend. So irrelevant I won’t even bother watching. Watching WC Richmond hoping for the miracle upset, watched North hoping they would injure the cats, to no avail.

I think this is the main thing. He’s missed/not given off 3 easy snaps the last three weeks, if he kicks those and kicks straight with the first two shots against Brissie it’s 11-2 and no-ones complaining. I wish he would suddenly turn into Wayne Carey and mark everything and kick 10 a week but we won a flag with him playing a more accurate version of this current footy and he will stay in as a result. The only way he could’ve lost his spot is if Weid went to a new level but sadly, while he battled manfully yesterday his marking is way off. Those complaining about BBB’s hands should take a look at Sam’s (who I wish would take the spot by the scruff of the neck but hadn’t) 5 dropped marks, hands like rocks. BBB also suffers from what I would call ‘very big man syndrome’ any KPF/Ruck over 200cms gets monstered, tackled in marking contests, arms chopped, bashed in every pack, pushed in the back, no free, Gawny cops this the worst. There seems to be a sweet spot where if you are Hawkins/Walker/Tabener you get frees but if you get too big all of a sudden you’re fair game for every dog act available. The exceptions that prove this rule are Max King and Daniher who play for frees rather than go for the ball.

How does not one reporter in the postgame ask for an eta or info on Jackson’s injury? Did we really need the question about Dawson? Asked about Max but nothing on Luke, useless!

They play North, Adelaide and Essendon for their next three. I hope they don’t but it looks like they keep winning, I think you’re right though, it won’t continue being tight!

Brilliant gutsy win missing huge structurally important players. Oliver, Trac, Viney Huge! Lever and Langdon back to their best! Forwards needed to take their chances more but we looked more dangerous again. Bring back Gawny and Jacko(🤞🤞🤞) and it’s our best 22 for Geelong. Let’s get a win for the ages! Also that was the most flagrantly biased umpiring display I’ve ever seen, sie of the clear frees to us that we’re missed, or just basics like marks and out on the full were a joke. That’s the closest I’ve ever seen to requiring someone sort of inquiry for corruption. Ruined the spectacle of a great, tough game!

Confirmed: https://www.afl.com.au/news/790404 Mitch Brown in. JVR emergency (which also hurts Casey 😭😭😭) mods feel free to remove the question mark in the threads title.

It may be glass half full/half empty stuff but I think we’ve been lucky this year. Realistically we’ve had three real first ruck options all year, Gawn, Jackson and Daw the likelihood of them all getting injured was always high, particularly given the crash and bash of ruck and contested marking and the fact opposition seem to get away with belting Gawn at every opportunity. The club clearly though it was a risk we could afford to take this year, possibly due to lack of available quality ruckman or draft picks, faith in Daw’s ability or faith in the ability of Weid and TMac to step up or a combination. But this was always a risk and with Majak’s ill timed injury, unfortunate retirement and the lack of other true first ruck backup if it costs us a winnable game it’d be a real shame. I hope Weid tears it up, but this will be his first ever game as first ruck and Reilly O’Brien is no slouch.

The last I heard was that Dogga was travelling to Adelaide to test there. I imagine it’s hard to keep a football secret in Adelaide, particularly an opposition fitness test.

The DeeBrief is reporting that Dogga is out for the crows with a minor PCL strain. 😳😳😳 Mitch Brown in? The horror….

I agree with the ones you can’t stand and my appalling footy tipping in 2022 means that I appreciate how difficult an in the spot prediction can be. But both of Montagnas very, very wrong statements about us (that we would get smashed by the saints and that it was possible we would miss finals) were in early in the week articles, not pre-game stuff. He clearly dislikes us, like most of the football media it must be said, and always goes the negative narrative on Melbourne to his detriment.

This is the same Montagna that had the saints thrashing the dees in round 8 and only one week ago had us possibly missing finals? He has done good analysis but when it comes to us and his beloved saints he lets emotion get in the way and makes some very, VERY, stupid calls.

Some very exciting players coming in, I was sad to see Scotty and Parry go but overall we haven’t been pilfered by the expansion teams the way many others have, we’ve kept the core of our group together and added some quality. Duffy is a huge get! Small forwards were our weakness the last few seasons. Losing Colvin is the only big downside this year as she was stellar last season. Hopefully Browny or Wilson as the new recruit can step up. 23 existing, Wilson (Carlton), Ivey (Geelong), Mackin (rookie), Chaplin (pick 44), Johnson (pick 49), Gall (pick 72), Duffy. Out: Scott, Parry, Petrevski, Magee, Tarrant, Simmons Edit: I missed that Tarrant had left, that hurts particularly with Colvin’s injury as she had played some decent footy swinging back. Excited for the season ahead, go Dees!

So here’s the pitch. “Luke, you can stay at the team that drafted you, that developed you into the rising star, put together a team that helped you win a premiership and looks capable of more, gives you the best ruck mentor in the game in Gawny and has all of your best mates. You can lock in to play with Gawn, Oliver, Petracca, Viney, Salem for the next four to seven years OR you can go to a West Coast team just starting a rebuild or a Freo team that looks good, but hasn’t achieved anything yet” If he doesn’t extend for two years he’s pretty silly I reckon.