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Sorry if it’s not clear, both the future first and second are tied to where Freo finish.

In: Brodie Grundy, Hunter, Schache, Pick 13, Pick 37, Future First and Second tied to Freo. Out: Jackson, Bedford, Weideman, Hunt, 33 and some picks we wouldn’t use this year and next. All in all it’s pretty bloody good, we got a ruckman (still need one or two for depth but better than none), we got an outside mid/wing, we got key position depth. We lost two players we didn’t want to, but ultimately we’ve made the best of a challenging situation and ended up with two picks we may upgrade that will net us good talent. Tick.

Good luck Sam, you were a loyal clubman and had some great moments 2018 finals will live forever in my memory. Good luck at the bombers, sadly I think you’ll be more than handy for them as they’ll play you in your best role, 3rd forward/ruck. For MFC I don’t understand this. We are now two soft tissue injuries to players over 29 (Gawn + Grundy) from TMac and BBB being our rucks. This year our ruck depth was thin but we had Daw and Weideman, the latter playing 2nd ruck relatively well against Brisbane. Now we have an injured TMac who hasn’t played back up ruck in years, BBB with his degenerative knee and a second year player in JVR who shouldn’t be played in the ruck but had to be in the second half of the season at VFL level due to our lack of depth. We better have a plan to bring in at least one more back up ruck. So much for learning from our mistakes and resting Gawn/Grundy throughout the season to have them cherry ripe for finals. Yikes.

I was comparing him to Spargo because I think they are similar and don’t think we can carry too many of that type of player. Both Spargo and Hunter are short players with good kicking and footy smarts, they are hard working runners that don’t look overly quick but cover a lot of ground, neither have x-factor or contested marking ability (with the exception of Spargos MOTY candidate). Spargo appears better at tackling and pressure than Hunter. The comparison was not favourable, certainly not calling him the messiah, in fact I was saying we should NOT take Hunter because he’s similar to Spargo. If anything that’s negative.

Yeah sorry, I remembered that shortly after posting but the edit option was gone. Doh!

I don’t see the point in a future pick. We’re in the window now and while Sam’s form hasn’t been great we’re light on for rucks and his best footy appears to be as a 2nd ruck/forward. He’s also at his lowest ebb in value, I’d rather back him in for one more year but if we decide to take 37 that’s ok, but definitely not a future pick.

So happy with this 27 for Grundy is a steal, can’t wait to see what he and Gawny do. Brodie seems a genuinely nice guy, classy exit message, excited to have him in the red and blue!!

The two are not mutually exclusive, ruckmen are key part of the midfield! Great midfields, with great ruckmen win premierships. Nankervis was integral to Richmonds premierships, Natanui West Coast’s, Gawn and Jackson ours, Stanley and Blitsavs Geelongs, Big boy MacEvoy and Segler at Hawthorn, Ottens at Geelong, Dean Cox West Coast, the list goes on and on. I think Jackson was ahead of Nank this year but you can argue he’s behind him. My point stands, Jackson is in the top few ruckmen in the league and not easily replaceable, I’m hopeful Grundy will get back to 2018-19 form, as we all are, but Jackson is a top flight ruck. JHF is all potential, he’s not in the top 20 mids in the comp right now, he may become a star, but he also may become an average mid, like many before him. That was my point and you may not agree, but it’s not insane nor full of non-sequiters, I think a lot of educated football people would agree. Time will tell, let’s tag this and wait five years, let’s see if JHF is in the top 10 mids in that time frame.

Ok, name how many AFL ruckmen you would pick before Jackson then name how many AFL mids you would have before JHF. For me, there’s at most five rucks I’d pick before Jackson (Gawn, Witts, Darcy, Hickey, Stanley) there’s a HUGE number of mids I’d pick before JHF (Oliver, Petracca, Viney, Dangerfield, Neale, Bontempelli, Liberatore, Treloar, Boak, Wines, Parker, Warner, Crisp, Miller, Rowell, Anderson, Cripps, Walsh, Cerra, Hewitt, Kennedy, Brayshaw, Serong, Laird, Keays, Taranto, Hopper, Martin, Cunnington, the list goes on.) JHF May become a top mid, he may not, Jackson is a top ruck right now. His games against Brisbane mid season and Gold Coast early were better than anything JHF did all year. Not to mention how he went in the 2021 GF. He’s streets ahead in a position that’s harder to fill.

Compare the pair: JHF 1st year average mid = Pick 3 and a future first Luke Jackson top flight ruck, premiership player, rising star= Pick 13 Future first, future second I know pick 1 was involved and 2+ 40+43 doesn’t make up all of that but FMD.

Shafted. Bedford should’ve netted us a pick to upgrade our first rounder. Instead he goes, with Jackson, to appease Freo getting our gun we don’t want to leave, great.

Bugger. Not happy Jan. (FWIW I would be fine with trading Sam if we were getting something worthwhile and he wanted it, but as it stands it looks like it’s to help Freo do a deal they should’ve been able to do without getting anything back. I hope we have a plan for at least one more ruckman to come into the list).

I’m hoping this isn’t true. Sam has struggled but a future third is nothing, if it’s to trade for Jackson as reported that makes me even more unhappy, we shouldn’t have to do anything for Freo to get Jackson, particularly not trade more key position depth, Freo is already getting unders, they can GAGF. I think Sam showed a bit as second tall/ruck particularly towards the end of the season, we are very light on for tall depth. Tommo and Ben Brown are injury prone and not mobile enough for backup ruck. If this is true we’re one injury away from no back up ruck now. If we do have plans for another backup ruck/forward we’ve left it to the end of trade period. Outs: L Jackson, S Weideman, M Brown, M Daw In: Grundy Thats not a balanced approach.

This is 100% right. Smoothing = cheating the salary cap. The only way a dump should be allowed is if the clubs split the pay to make up the full contract or the destination club takes on the full contract as is.

Perfect from our girls, wonderful performance, great win. Umpiring woefully biased. I’d be putting a please explain in on the constant calling of Goldrick’s handballs as throws, there may have been one or two but they haven’t called it on anyone else when they’ve been clearer and worse, clear bias.

I really hope we aren’t interested in Hunter, to me he is Spargo without the tackling pressure. A big no. I’d rather give Woey a chance in the seniors on the wing than Hunter. Also with ducking for high free kicks being stopped his possessions will halve. Strong no from me.

I’m happy with this. There just isn’t the talent we need available this year. If a speedy skilful outside mid or a star key forward was available we would go for it. I’d clear Oskar Baker’s spot and draft a developing ruck, but otherwise, Grundy, 2 top picks and the Chandler upgrade and go to work on improving from within.

Yep, that’ll do.

I hope they don’t. I hope we get Cadman, but Geelong do seem to have a knack for things falling their way, I agree with you those players will play in the twos next year and might help them in the future, but I don’t see improvement coming from them in 2023. Parfitt for Selwood will be interesting, Parfitt’s best is very good but he goes missing. It may be wishful thinking but I’m hoping they’re getting worse next year.

Better? Out: J Selwood(still in their best 3 mids), Dalhaus, Higgins, Narkle In: Bowes (not getting a game at GC), Bruhn (ok mid for GWS), Henry (not getting a game at pies), I assume the last player is Hunter Clarke? They’re not getting worse but I’m not seeing huge improvement there. Bruhn to replace Selwood is a downgrade, Bowes is unproven and largely for pick 7 and Henry could be a Gary Rohan upgrade. That’s not a huge improvement. If Dangerfield, Smith, Hawkins and Duncan finally fall off the cliff Geelong will be much, much worse.

What a first week for Brad Scott, get potted by a board member in the paper the day after you get signed, who openly proclaims they wanted someone else, have a new CEO hired and fired and now watch on as the board explodes as a result. Much better than justifying terrible umpiring decisions and score reviews Brad? Jist brilliant.

Hard pass

Phew.

They won’t do it with 2 of course but they’re open to split it to get it done. Get a top ten pick if WC split, + FF + 26 for Luke and 42.

WC have just announced they want Jackson, so now we are dealing with the club with the highest draft capital. 2, 26 and a Future first gets it done. Or if they want to split 2 to get another top ten pick to trade to us that’s good too.