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If he were ever considered a spot for us I would much prefer us offering a place at Casey (perhaps someone could shed light on if this is possible) and say to him let’s see how you go in competitive footy before the mid-season draft. Is it a similar system where you can nominate players to have first dibs on? But he’d have to be out there playing regular footy with zero symptoms before a place would be considered. And even then it just doesn’t sit well with me.

I vaguely remember that when he left it was family reasons, and therefor considered a private matter. I guess when you’re a football nothing is really private. I hope he and his family are ok during this tough time.

I'm concerned for Kozzie, but I'm hoping there are others who are stepping into the void to put their hands up for selection.

Great reporting PF! Fraser Rosman is sounding more and more likely to debut round one, looking forward to seeing him in action in the warm up matches. LJ as well is tracking well, could be a bit of a break out year, particularly with our first choice tall forwards injured for the early stages. TMac kicking a few snags is always great news, good for his confidence as well.

They were/are victims. Are you going to tell jewish holocaust survivors and their families to just get over what the Germans/Nazi's did to them? I think most people would recognise that changing the date of Australia Day won't solve all the problems, in fact it would merely be a small step towards reconciliation. Much the same way that Kevin Rudd saying sorry was a small step in the right direction. How can we expect to celebrate Australia Day as a united nation when it's the day the British people essentially began the atrocities against ancestors of our first nations people? Regardless of whether the British were any better or worse than the French, Dutch, or Spanish.

Oliver has the ability to be our best by the end of our career (potentially go down as a legend of the club) but right now he is not our best midfielder of the 21st century. Still plenty for him to work on, currently a great clearance player and gets plenty of the ball, but he needs to be more damaging, he needs to start kicking goals, and his kicking needs to go up a gear. To clarify I think he will improve in ALL of these areas, but pound for pound currently I'd have Yze, Junior Mac, Jones, Bruce, Green, and then others who you question "are they forward or mid" such as Petracca and Flash ahead of him as best midfielder of the century. Give it to as early as the end of this year and that could well change.

I'll just weigh in saying that at that time in history they probably would've classified essentially enslaving them in order to modernise them was considered to be doing it in their best interests. Much in the same way the stolen generation was because they wanted to get them out of the hands of their true parents to move them towards a white way of life (and basically breed their culture/race into extinction). I've got no doubt there would've been countless undocumented acts of cruelty in the name of "harm prevention". We are largely ignorant to our own bloody history because we aren't taught enough of it, and because the history books are always written (or re-written) by the "winners". Also it may well have been punishable by death to kill a native, I'd be very interested to know how many were actually convicted of it.

We took the punt on KK, it failed. We took the punt on Bennell, didn’t go so well. I don’t see any need for us to take a punt on Paddy when we actually do have depth in that area. Ultimately he would still be behind Tom, LJ, and Brown anyway. I also cringe at the thought of him playing footy and taking one more hard hit that could impact him long term (what he’s been through I can’t imagine it hasn’t already).

The funny thing for Tom was that the opportunity to play forward fell in his lap when we ran out of options, now with out first options (that were likely to keep him out of the forward line) injured he's got another chance to prove himself. Really hope he can take it.

I know some of the arguments against but I'm wondering whether we look at playing Salem on the opposite wing to Langdon. He's by no means quick but he has really good disposal and it would be nice to have that delivering to the forwards. Perhaps a situation with himself and Rivers rotating in there. I'm not sold on the idea of Melksham in the midfield, perhaps I'm just scarred by his poor output in 2020.

Through 2019 and well into 2020 that has been our biggest issue. I'm probably a little harsh on Tommy by saying welcome back to 2019, he's been training well and who knows he could have a second sunrise on his career as a forward. Either way we will either need that connection between midfield and forward to actually work (I personally think to do think Fritch needs to play on the HFF instead or rotating with Melksham) or we need to create more goals out of our midfielders such as Oliver, Brawshaw, Viney, and perhaps Harmes. I just really hope for Wieds sake that his hard work over the summer hasn't been for nothing.

Well this has been a crap week for our forward line, particularly as a strong start is so important to the success of our year. Poor Weid, he was putting in so much hard work and now he'll have to start all over again. Tommy has gone from being on the fringes (possibly playing wing), to competing for the other spot in the forward line, to now once again being our focal point. Welcome back to 2019 ?.

Eddie didn't do anything for nothing, it's no surprise that when the game began to attract more and more interest (not just from the gate receipts but the Big Freeze side of things) he demanded it be shared again. The pies were in a blessed position to be gifted blockbuster games, the best time slots, and cushy low-travel fixtures every year. Our protests at the lack of equity dropped significantly after they began to give us this game because we had the "don't bit the hand that feeds you" mentality, essentially it put us under his/the pies thumb. It was a helpful thing at the time, did it save us as a club? Not sure I would go that far. Did Eddie/the Pies do it purely out of the kindness of their hearts? [censored] no. Incidentally, when we did accept the sharing of the fixture I felt we should have made a push to say "we'll have one of you're Friday nigh fixtures as compensation thanks". They still get a heavily favourable fixture commercially, while we have lost one of our few regulars every year.

This is the case for almost all teams in the competition but for us to be a serious threat this year we need a lot of things to go right for us. Firstly we need our Brown recruitment to work. This hasn't got off to a great start as he'll likely miss some early games. We need players that have been teasing becoming top players to take that next step (much like what Trac did last year). We need our injury list to remain at a manageable level. We need our game plan to be something that not only works (in theory), but that the players need to buy into completely. Goody also needs to have some flexibility to be able to combat the other teams kicking goals in a row. I'm not buying into us being a genuine threat, I think we have the pieces of the puzzle available but putting it together I just don't know if we've got it.

A lot of the soccer clubs in Europe and the UK usual do a legends v legends match for charity every year. Now AFL does require a higher level of fitness (and there's the EJ Whitten legends game ever year as well), but I would love to see a classic Dees charity match done even if it's at a half pace bit of fun (could even do a mix of old and new). Imagine seeing the Wiz pass the ball to his son for a goal!

It's massively important that we keep Nev involved in the club after his playing career has ended whether that's in a coaching capacity or a part of our indigenous program. As an aside I'm so happy for him that he didn't end up going to the Pies with everything that's going on there, I can't help but feel he would be trusted straight in front of the cameras for comments had he been there right now.

I think it's fair to acknowledge what he's managed to achieve over his time at the Pies, they've gone from being a working class club to powerhouse in his time there and won a premiership on the way (along with sustained finals appearances and being "contenders"). At times he has been good for the promotion of the game. But clearly the locker-room/boys club style has gone on for too long, they became a tight run ship in certain departments but maintained the schoolyard antics at the players level that let certain attitudes continue there. His character on the radio and the TV seemed to fit into that mold. During his footy show days Sam Newman did plenty of blatantly offensive things, sure Eddie would cringe and put his hands in his face but he never called him out on it. Feels a bit the same here that he might've heard about things, he might not have been party to them, but he didn't do enough to stamp it down. Will be interesting to see if he takes time away from his media commitments while the dust settles on his departure.

I think the Wiz's connection to the club definitely opened some doors for Kobe to get a chance with us, but it'll be up to him to take that chance and do something with it. So far it sounds like he's doing everything right.

Not the best news but not the worst, I suppose surgery was always going to be the result with persist swelling. Question is will they be able to manage him well enough to prevent the swelling from becoming a regular issue.

Living in the UK I obviously admire the fact that Australia (and NZ for that matter) have managed very few COVID cases over the last year, but I think unless the states allow some kind of regular flow with minimal community cases (and I'm not necessarily saying they should) I think the season will again be disrupted. When I say minimal I'm talking 1 or 2 random cases in a day type thing, Victoria obviously found out what happens if it gets out in a flash. I don't think we can actually know the full extent of the strain that the hubs had on the players, coaches, and support staff. I doubt a hub will be something they want so it will be interesting to see how they decide to proceed if borders start shutting again.

Definitely agree with this assessment, Gawn's a great ambassador for the club but quite often falls into the "everything's hunky dory" side of things. I don't really blame some posters for thinking the sky's falling, we've been burnt a couple of times before with recruits looking the good and then having injuries hold them back. It was widely reported during the pre-trade period that Burgess and the club gave Brown a very detailed once over so at the end of the day we've got to back them to know how to manage his knee issues and hopefully it is something that will allow him to play most of the year (obviously including bagging 6 in the GF!).

100% agree, rather than having these touchy difficult rules to enforce result in such a massive advantage make it a 25m penalty that at least doesn't put a player from on the centre square to basically point blank range. Cool head from Maxy, hopefully if he finds himself in a match winning situation again in the real thing he'll call this up for some confidence.

Oh damn! I'm UK based so I missed these things, that's a real shame because he has had some very compelling interviews over the years (Trenners was sadly very dour). You're probably right about Scully as well, he's never been a media personality or anything. Sucks though as I think his journey, while not exactly an illustrious one, is an intriguing one.

My understanding was the Burgess was heavily involved in the medical evaluation of him before we recruited him (and in fact Burgess was a big reason for why he chose us in the end). I think to call this an injury is probably an incorrect terminology because I'd say it's more a persistent issue that will be with him for the rest of his life and he has to be managed. It's not good news, the way the club has worded things is without the usual puff of "we expect him to be back in training shortly" so without much more information I think his management will need to be reassessed. Fingers crossed though.