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Yep, spot on. He would have been genuinely surprised to get dropped in that last game. And apparently the coaches do the votes for the b&f so their message couldn't be clearer. Vickery had a similar ultimatum I reckon and spent quite some time in the twos. To his credit he seems to have risen to the challenge. Let's hope jack can.

And this one, focused on his playing career is good - Retiring Adam Goodes leaves a hole that only the truly great can fill

A brilliant article - Adam Goodes showed us the festering sores of Australia's history can rip open at any moment

Spare me. Don't go the the thread if it is a problem for you. As WJ said this is a thread to celebrate one of the greats. I for one never go to the general boards and to bury it there would be an insult.

Fyfe is coming to melb! With him and danger we will have the best midfield in the league!

Amazing isn't it. Hodge is a sniper, with multiple reports. Whilst on his latest suspension he drinks and drives, putting the community at risk. Cops a few boos but he's a good bloke and normal transmission resumes

For whom?

Almost hoping????

I'm one of those posters.

Witty post grazperson

If he comes to the dees i'll support him. It's how i roll

You think?

I know, was just paying along with Webber. He's overrated anyaway

Source?

I laregly agree and also want him to stay. I disagree about Danger though. We'll get him!

Was FC on at all? Does Oaks coach Oakleigh?

One of their ruckmen?

Now please this is getting silly. I'll support Watts because he's a dee. But i'm not so blind as to not see his weaknesses. Recruiting a player with the same weaknesses (and a couple of others besides eg poor disposal) would test my ability to fully support MFC players (though i have to admit other recent imports, notably Dawes have tested that abilty - i even broke my rule and let out an exasperated "Dawes" yell at the footy this year - though fortunately i stopped short of calling him a spud)

Auspicious. He's a dee

That was actually the worst bit of the article - and the slight on MFC. Basically saying we were weak and would not offer him a contract because he would say no. I mean seriously what's that about? As Pro Dee we have already asked him for an extension. And surprise, surprise he agreed. I'm sure Jesse and all of us hope that by the end of 2017 we will be making finals and pushing for top 6 finish in 2018. If that happens he gets to play in front of big crowds, play final, play at the G and be part of something special with a group of mates. If that's the case is he unlikely to want to go back home and start all over again, particularly with Freo who won't have won a flag by then.

Que?

I really only watch demon games these days (with the exception of finals). And when i do i can't distinguish between opposition players and unless they kick a bag or are really cutting us up don't even notice them. So i don't have a clue how good Melksham is. That said i would two things. Goodwin has coached him and so i assume wold have a pretty good idea of his ability. Secondly since Hird went to the club it is safe to assume it has been a nightmare at EFC, certainly since the ASADA thing blew up. Hard to reach your potentail in that environment i suspect. Perhaps he can at the dees and Roos etc think so then that good enough for me

And we get Russell? His biased but not in the way your other examples are. The Anti Bias

They said it really hinders recovery, again particularly for big fellas because as even though they are in business class and have more room it is still pretty cramped and it is a really long flight. One of them, an ex player said also the pressurised environment didn't help things. The consensus was clear that it shortened careers with someone noting Bluey McKenna was adamant it truncated his by up to 2 years. Add to the problems associated with a long flight the extra hassles of getting to and from the airport (geelong to Tulla anyone?), flight delays, red eye flights, problems players with certain injuries face with flying and having to spend every second week in hotel rooms and away from your own home and you start to have more than a few disincentives to play for a Perth team. And that's not even taking into account that some players hate the fishbowl effect in SA and WA. Edit: it would be interesting to see the averga number of games played by WC and Freo players and how they fare with players reaching 200 and 300 game milestones. Is pav the only docker to have played 300?

#iagree. Alternatively don't raise the draft age but prohibit players playing senior football in the forts year. Cripps and Hogan are perfect examples of the benefit of this.