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Good Point. Missed that lengthy preamble. So you put him in the team, even though he wasn't selected, because... Anyway, I must admit also at the game the round arm looked serious to me at the time and started a blue from memory so interesting to hear that It may well have been soft. Strawbs did seem confident when coming off after the game that he would be exonerated. This was reflected by comments to me from his father whom I worked with at the time. hard done by is the family version. Go Dees

saw most of his games live. All I will remember of him is the killer torp in the Hawks finals match in 2019 at the 5 minute mark of the 1st 1/4. We wouldn't have improved if he kept getting a game with us. Good luck to him at the hawks though, but gee they are a seriously good outfit disposal quality- wise and I just cant see it for him there.

Very good point here MD Champion Data are interesting in- season because the data is as close to real time as you can get. In 2018, I found David King's insights using this data interesting and he never lost the faith because of the what he saw the indicators doing inside the Dees. However, they don't produce forecasting material. Just predictions based on history and now have rated our list as poor, when in fact a non-existent pre-season for last season was the issue and doesn't translate to a 2020 forecast. Burgess and other factors need to be factored which they don't do. Just stats collectors really and should be seen as such.

The descriptor on Nicky D was a joke, right? Very much a fence sitter but looks good on the tele.

It could. That's why its $26 to $1. Theres a reason for that. But making finals is another thing. What are those odds??

You would think they could afford a topline web designer and web master. Disgrace for a large corp like the AFL but theyre' not alone sadly.

Thanks and Great job on this FMF. Very interesting and says if things go OK the group in their prime of 27/28/29 will be/could be formidable maybe?

Hallelujah and no you're not.

Agree with this. What we do know is that 2 to 3 teams from last season WILL fall out of the 8 and its often hard to predict. The only certainties for me are Tigers (given talent), Eagles (with home ground advantage and talent) and probably GWS (talent) and Lions (talent and coaching) This is last roll of dice for cats and still some flakiness in their list.

I watched the post of Garry Lyon's 10 goals in the 1994 final. (and saw it live). Looking at the talent that day such as Lyon, Stynes, Tingay, Lovett (B and G) Ox, Febeys, Obst and Neitz (the best CHB Carey played on he said.) Wight Viney etc,... says to me the current list is nowhere near as good as that one, nor the 1998 finals list for that matter. I just think our list IS overrated at present, as shown in some pundits lists of A Graders - we only have 1 legitimate - Big Max for example. We are still in re-build IMO talent-wise

This is so lightweight its a disgrace in regards to analysis.

Couldn't have said it better. Fox sports/news Corp rubbish and click bait.

Agreed. What we're just seeing is the darren burgess effect. Petracca should have looked this way seasons ago.

You mean like Kardinia Park where the cats play regularly to less than full crowds in a 35 ish thousand capacity stadium. Geelong has sucked huge capital from govt into the stadium for elite users - despite the spin its for the community too, at the expense of more worthwhile projects in the city

Another poorly researched opinion piece in parts (lazy journalism maybe). e.g he/she lauds Max Gawn as the only player ready to go and heroically stood up all year. As the club noted only 2 players completed more than 80% of pre-season sessions - GAWN and Lewis. Of the best 26, vast majority completed less than 30% of sessions. Of course he stood out.

Not really. Very flaky finals performances after 2000. Flakiness was never an issue with northey teams.

O dwyer wasnt in team . Suspended. Nevertheless i reckon the 88 team had more class and A graders. Northey a superior coach for consistency of effort

1988. Gf year

As a professional for sure he will move on once he has achieved a record of note - no matter how long or short he will leave an imprint . He spoke exceptional well at fan forum. Off the cuff and not planning to speak but Goodwin threw to him several times to let him handle his area of expertise. Good of Goodwin, not hogging the mike.

It's not a personal choice for gambling addicts who make up most revenue. Its a physiologogical addiction hard to beat. More of them will now move to the hawks venues. You know - the Family club Talk about hypocrites

Only that each year 2 to 3 teams do drop out thus at least providing the opportunities for new entrants if they are good enough

Great Post D3. The summary of impacts of injuries etc after 2018 on 2019 at the recent forum was also illuminating and puts the 2019 in some sort of context. Josh Mahoney's stat of only 2 starting 22 player, (Gawn and Lewis completed 80% plus of preseason), whilst 10 best starting 22 completed 30% or less spoke volumes IMO. nevertheless no excuses now for 2020 with whats going on at present training and recruiting - wise. Likewise - Go Dees

Case of repeating history and hoping for a different outcome There's a name for this behaviour

I Agree. Why has there been very little on the go home factor especially to WA. The processes now mean contracts are worthless if someone wants to leave compared to the old days. The kid might spend a year at Casey and wonder ' what the hell'. I can see 5 - 6 years of a Jesse Hogan type angst each off season. Be warned .

Good call. Co-captains define a club that can't make up its mind and doesn't truly understand the ' follow me ' quality of a good leader. Time to be ruthless and make the hard call on Max alone.