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And he's a real leader. The times he took Lockhart under his wing last night and looked out for him which was something special. We got exactly what we needed. A backline leader and gun full back.

Agree with all of the above. The Tmac decision was mandatory, the rest - ????? This was a perfect game to help May Lever and O Mac further gell together. Jones kicking across ground to the crows here we come.

I Like this 640MD. Vandeburg isnt a great disposer but gee he hardens up the team like no other. Jones and Tmac are nevr to be picked this year.

Was that the contested mark he took 5 m out near the goal square and promptly kicked a behind?

Agree. We can move players in and out but its a systematic problem. I could only watch a few minutes last night and the very first thing I saw was Viney running out of centre and doing a long bomb into the forward 50, head down. Marked by Port defender of course. This is system and strategy issue starting with coaching. Don't fix that and nothing changes

Gerard Healy just said after Fritsch goal that this is the best lineup of the Dees in 20 years and the sky is the limit for them. I know- I couldn't believe it either.

Agreed, but at the end of Lyon's term , esp 96 and 97 when the team was problematic and dysfunctional at Board level, he barely played due to back injury. 11 games over 2 seasons and was completely ineffective on field . I'm not sure about Hollywood Bvd., but I saw him walking like a 90 year old bent over in 1996 along Canterbury Road and thought he'd never play again. He did in '98 and we were just pipped IMO for the flag that year.

I saw all of garry lyons career live and the numerous times he dragged the team over the line. Don't confuse great playing talent with leadership capability. They are different characteristics . After Flower Lyon was the best talent i hsve seen at the dees btw imo.

I'm not kidding. Neita was a magnificent player but led the team through some of its flakiest periods when routinely we'd give 6 goal starts miss finals after a GF. I always bemoaned the lack of a follow me leader like flower or lyon over the years in games when it counted.

As the late john kennedy would say. Its only the head and he could still run and kick. But good news its not his foot. Will be welcomed straight back.

I'm not sure about that. We have been flaky for a long time and I think that's due to limited on-field leadership partially. Since say 1980 - Flower, Lyon and Viney(T) are the only ones I rated. Gawn will join that list

Interestingly with this weeks votes, only one of the coaches rated Jack with votes, giving him three (possibly Goody), whilst the other didn't score him at all.

Based on what? Form or historical potential?

I don't understand the enthusiasm for T Mac by some after seeing yesterday. Its 2020 not September 2018. Tmacs a defender or possibly a huge runner on the wing but if we break up the young forward structure , and deny them valuable experience this year its a backward looking step.

Correct. Lets take the long term view. On today's form no changes for the rest of the year, Except for those on thin ice - Brayshaw and Melksham. Yesterday we saw close to the new future . Tmac hasn't played well or clunked marks since the '18 finals, Jones is problematic (I'd rather persevere with Lockhart who has speed and skill - sure the odd mistake but he'll learn) . Sparrow, Rivers etc will get their chances too. All other changes for '2020 based only on injury and management.

Well said. IMO I suspect that Goodwin may well have given Jack 4 votes for his game winning inside efforts this week. And rated Christian but just not as much as the often unnoticed Viney never say die approach

Either way the coaches gave Gawn and Petracca 5 each between them. Whoever gave Christian 5, the other gave him 2 which is strange. With max either best or second best on the ground behind Christian.

I attended the Demons vs Dogs or Saints match at Marvel in 2018 when Lever injured his knee. Watching from close quarters I got the sense that Lever and O Mac communicated on field really well. They were is constant dialogue, adjusting themselves for positioning etc. Really small sample but it stood out for me that day. sadly Lever was off shortly after. I have confidence with this set up now and will be interesting to watch this evolve hopefully.

Racial vilification is a crime. Someone get of their [censored] and have the police and or Feds trace the origin via its Meta data to which they have access and publicise the moron on the front of the Herald Sun.

But exactly what is richos role? I've never understood apart from an experienced mature sounding board for goodwin. Is it strategy???

I mentioned this on another thread earlier. Agree 100% FD. Lyon said its a 30 second fix and my thought was why has the stats on I50's been going on for 2 years.?

Ross Lyon said as much too on Wednesdays Footy Classified.

Obvious . Thanks. Much appreciated.

What does this mean???? I've never seen the movie

I'll be re-reading this post at 8.30pm on Saturday. It'll either be hilarious or a pile onto Chookrat( whom I admire greatly and more strength to you mate)