John Crow Batty

No, the watershed moment before our decline. For me Hunts torpedo.

All the more remarkable as he has had to do it along with Nev in a feckless defence structure.

And the 1990 elimination final when we were touted as flag favourites and lost to WC at Waverley. That was as bad a choke as on Saturday. They blew us away in the first quarter and that was that. This was the beginning of the end for Northey.

He must be devastated to the point of paralysis. What can he say? He, the coaches, the players and the club have collectively f**ked up big time. Everyone connected to the club is hurting. Unlike 186 this time there is no scapegoat.

Your post is sooooo 2014 or 2009. Does not excuse losing to a team with nothing to play for, 9 regular players out and other issues. We were in the 8 on Saturday morning. We had an opportunity.

Shame he got unjustly pinged for a lot of real brilliant ones that were too slick for the umpires eyes.

When mine arrives perhaps later today I will mark it "Return to sender" and letterbox it.

Yep looks like a good fit.

More early wins would have led to even a bigger choke later in the season. It's in our DNA. I hope Goodwin can perform genetic transplant surgery.

I think MFC would be the last club he would want to play for after the way he was treated.

And it's Wednesday.

Fail to see how what Lewis's suspension at the beginning of the season led to the disastrous choke in the last round and the lame round before that. If he wasn't suspended we no doubt would have found some other ways to mentally trip up throughout the season to keep us treading water. A consistent pattern this season, last season, 2015, etc, etc.

If the Swans culture can't buy him in then he will run amuck with us.

If true this woman openly flaunts her support for Richmond at the shop she should shut up and show respect to our supporters or be sacked.

And not so thinly veiled either. Hollywood Boulevard stuff.

A wake up call and a lot of mental torture for 8 months to come. It's going to be a long wait to see if it's true.

Jordan Lewis says it better than Jones. https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/jordan-lewis-says-2017-is-a-missed-opportunity-that-the-demons-must-learn-from/news-story/d7bd91a69110db9cd4e1495f699121df

An exciting new accessory for our players to wear on game days.

He has to sell a S**t sandwich because there's nothing else.

Must be very disappointing for them but now is no the time to hide. Suck it up and cop the medicine.

So where is the coach now? Not a word and disappeared. Come on out and get it over with.

I guess this year we had no fear for North, Freo, Collingwood, Hawthorn, Brisbane, GC for starters. We had them beat for the first five seconds.

Yeah, Goodwin is right that we deserve to be where we are at end of round 23. And the only reasons are because we are still soft and chokers

The burning unknown for the next eight months will be if this will spur us on and rectify the problem or will we go the other way? Given the clubs DNA it's looks very uncertain as while the club has improved in many areas the mental aspects are as bad as they ever were.

Every half decent side expects a couple of upset losses a season. A sliver of percentage kept us out of the eight and if we won half of the upset losses and finished off our wins we could have been top four. I watched all of these games live or on TV and we made North, Freo, Hawks, Collingwood, GC and Brisbane look like top four sides for most or part of those games. Even though we got very close in the final quarter of all of those losses there was a feeling it was like climbing Everest without oxygen to overcome one or a couple of goals. The same as in 2016. Their is some serious headspace issues to overcome at the club that is killing our progress.