Everything posted by The Chazz
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
You're screwed now @Drunkn167. When you have the public backing of the Administration Department, you're best to start clearing out your locker. I'm tipping we'll get a 4th rounder for you. It's not you, it's the industry.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
I think it's very close to the right deal, but I would be pushing for GC to include KK and Pick 19 in that deal. A shuffle of picks too. Something like; In; May, KK, Pick 24 Out; Pick 5, Pick 34 Means we are taking Pick 11 and 24 in to the draft, and when combined with May and KK, has cost us Hogan and Pick 34. I would rate Hogan = May & KK (in terms of value to our needs). Shuffling Picks 5 & 34 (2420 points) for Pick 11 & 24 (2114).
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Sicko.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
The uncertainty in all this is the type of contract we would offer May next year. If he wants out, and is still happy to come to us, his contract won't be as great in 12 months. Therefore, the compo might not be as high as we think. (That's what I'd be reminding GC when I offer Pick 11!).
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
So, according to McLure, that makes May equal to Hogan. He's a goose.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Darwin Awards...
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Which is basically the same as what @mauriesy said, which you challenged, then started talking about cars. Ok.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
What about Pick 11, and MFC 2019 First Round Pick, for May, KK and Pick 19?
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Great outcome. I'm sure I've heard someone else mention something similar... Oh wait, there it is...
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Tyson doesn't want to go there. He's contracted, so we will get him to North (which is where he wants to go).
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Pretty sure that's the sort of role that KK is coming to play (that tall, fast winger that some clubs love), so we wouldn't be looking at Hall.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Red, the issue is that if we play too hardball on Hogan, we could end up missing out on any gun kid in this year's draft, as well as missing out on May, and our list is in no different shape than what it was two weeks ago.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
I'm with you Mauriesy. As it stands, we don't have a first round pick in this year's draft. We also need a quality, solid key defender, a back up ruck and some speed on the outside. If we can manage to get all of those things, as well as maintaining a position in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds this year, and all we've lost is Hogan, Tyson and Kent, then it's big ticks from me.
- Ben Long
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
But it's not a straight comparison of the output individually (ie Hogan 2019 vs May 2019). It's the output of the individual for our team (ie Hogan & Melbourne 2019 v May and Melbourne 2019).
- Ben Long
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Let's just wait until a deal is made (if made), then we can analyse the deal. In the meantime, see my post above about not looking at a possible Pick 5 for May in isolation. There will be more to it than that.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Could include their 2nd rounder back. Who knows. The point I was making was that I doubt it would be as straightforward as Pick 5 for May. There would be more to the deal than that. But, we shouldn't underestimate May either (not saying he's worth Pick 5, but he's a quality player).
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
I would imagine that pick 5 could include Kade Kardashian too.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
I think we set somewhat of a precedence last year when giving up 2 x first rounders for Lever. Personally, if a trade is to take place, I can see; Out; Hogan In; Pick 6 (2018 - presuming they get that for Neale), 2019 1st Round I would then try and trade our 2019 1st Round pick to Gold Coast for May (would require a combination of other picks too, possibly including our 2nd Round pick this year). Means we will keep Pick 6 for this year, and then have Freo's 1st pick next year (Pick 1 hopefully, but realistically 2-8).
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
I take it you don't like reading newspapers, Sue?
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Farewell Dom Tyson
Think that was pretty obvious when we delisted Filipovic and King. In 2019, we are going to have the best ruck in the league, and a more than capable back-up who will continue to get better. A lot of sides would be in envy of our position here.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Didn't think we played our intraclub games on the MCG anymore, Bob?
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - STEVEN MAY
Well, they suck bot bot then, don't they.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - STEVEN MAY
It may have been mentioned earlier on this thread (can't be bothered looking), but there was a stage in the later parts of this season where the idea was discussed that Gold Coast could rip up May's current contract, effectively making him a Free Agent. The reason for doing this is the compo pick they would receive would be of far greater value than what May would command in a trade. With or without Jesse's departure, this is hopefully something the MFC are discussing with the Suns. I'm sure the AFL would look after it's love child if they approached with this request.