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Who is the likely pick one this year that we can stuff up?

Deck chairs. Titanic

I think that time has already passed. Only club that picks up players with no heart, no fitness and horrible skills is the one putting him up for trade!

Give me McCartin any day. Even with how rain would have given him concussion today. Still has more heart than him

we Need to start looking to next year now. Put players out for surgeries and start the pre season. It already feels like they have written this year off with the amount of excuses already trotted out this puss club

Look at AFL daily on the herald sun website, quotes exactly that. CEO overruled their recruiting.

Malthouse really doesn't rate us at all!

Probably like a lot here, I could see something was off in about the first minute or so. The previous WCE game we were playing on at almost all costs from the start of the game, the first chance we had to do so we stopped and went back over the mark. Our game plan was seemingly different. I don't believe we actually changed the game plan but it was the players who got completely spooked. It was something I expected to happen more in the first final than the third but it happened. Whilst I believe we are stronger mentally than we were at the start of the year, we still aren't strong enough. We need some more outside run but what I think we need more of is a better connection with the forward line. For the number of inside 50s we had this year we should have scored a hell of a lot more and this would have resulted in more wins in itself. Either working on the disconnect with the forward line or getting players who make the correct decision going forward should be our priority (we need both though). Overall though, I am a pessimist with us and us expected nothing from us this year so to win two finals was good and have my kids finally get to experience a final was good. We could be anything next year but having been beaten down by the club over the years there is part of me that says the players will be too mentally scared and will go backwards next year. We shall see but I hope to be wrong.

True. This is the type of loss that could scar us for the next few years. I actually thought we would be close to unbeatable next year, I worry about us making the top 10 now.

I don’t know why people are having a go at the umpires. I’ve never in my life seen a team [censored] themselves in every aspect of the game. You would actually think we were trying to throw the game it is that bad.

M54-1? Me too, pretty sure it is about the 50m line olympic stand.

I did hear on SEN that they were going to stagger the club member sales later this afternoon, didn't say when though.

Also a quick tip for you - I was online first thing, got to the payment stage and it then said the page had expired and hadn't processed. I went to get the tickets again and it told me my allocation per barcode had been used. Then checked my order history and the tickets were there, as well as payment taken out of the credit card so if you get a similar message to me, check before going through the process again so you don't end up buying two lots, which I almost did!

Don't know if he will come to us but I've heard him talk a few times and he specifically mentions that all the individual success means nothing if you don't win a flag and that is the ultimate to him. If he doesn't think he can win a flag at freo I reckon he will go. That being said, he will probably go to either Hawthorn or Geelong...