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Oh yeah, well I'll match that 'n' raise ya a Peter Giles & Glen Giles. Glen was definately the Tarzan & not the Jane.

I'm with you 'dean ox', I think we need a real big KPP. We have enough mobile lithe light bodied 191cm 194cm players. If we were to get Judd then that would satisfy the midfield need @ the moment, as long as we don't lose any to trades of our kids. We do need a POWER KPP.

& could have had Lockett & Frawley! B)

"This may seem harsh trading up Bruce, Green, White and Johnstone.Especially as trading White will leave us without a number 1 ruckman. However, White will retire within a couple of years and does anyone honestly believe we have what it takes to win a flag by then. I would suggest trading to St. Kilda and Fremantle as these are the only clubs in the bottom 8 who would consider themselves a chance to win a flag in the near future and would be looking to 'top up'. I mean, White, Johnstone, Bruce and Green are all quality players. I agree with you, but I think your combinations might need minimal tweaking." These sides & also Carlton may just be interested in a deal. Add to the combo', Caroll, CJ or PJ. Carlton might like PJ, with Travis feeding the Fev. The Doggies might like White + Robbo/Bruce. Sainters might like a combo of White/PJ + Robbo. We do need to build & freshen our list before we can be a serious challenger. This current list has allready peaked & is sliding.

I'm starting to think that Carlton & the Tige's both may go for KPP's with there first picks. From what I know they both seem to have weak defences so therefore may go for Rance firstup. They'll want a player who'll be ready to play round 1 & as both have reasonable running players I think they will go for Class tall KPs.

Some info on the taller draft picks courtesy of Big Footy..... (Borrowed from saintsational) Matt Kreuzer-199cm, 91kg-Northern Knights. (ruck) The most talked about player in the draft and for pretty good reason. His tap work is good but he holds his own more than dominates. It is around the ground where his class shows. He simply moves around like another midfielder. Has clean hands and good skills and can tackle. Has great running ability and gets to contests all around the ground. To put it plainly guys his size who can play like midfielders are too good to pass up. Top 5 pick. Alex Rance-194cm, 87kg-Swan Districts. ( CHB/FB). The star defender of the National champs. His run out of defence was great. His defensive work was excellent. Has good pace and skills for a big bloke. He worked in well with Browne and Meyers to give WA the killer dash from defence. His handballing was creative and he hits targets by foot. He is simply a defender that every club will rate. Top 15 pick. Ben McEvoy-199cm, 90kg-Murray Bushrangers. (Ruck, fwd) He has been on the radar for a while and has had good form this year. He was one of Country’s best performers during the champs playing in the ruck and up forward. He looks to have good endurance and moves around the ground well but he is not blessed with a lot of pace. His ruckwork is pretty good and he can read the play. His kicking skills are very good and he can take a good contested mark. He is the type of ruckman that can ruck for a good portion of the match. Where he goes in the draft will be interesting. Pick 10 to 30 Tom Collier – 192cm, 86kg-Lauderdale TAS. ( RR/CHB). I have Tom in my midfield review as well but he has to be in the backs too given he has played a lot at CHB. Not sure if he will have the height to be an outright KP player but he certainly can play the running half back role and his defensive skills are good. Uses the footy well. Reads the game well. There is no doubt clubs will like his ability to play back or in the middle. Top 25 pick. Tate Pears-192cm, 90kg-East Perth-(CHB/HBF). Played at CHB for WA in the champs and played well. Like Collier is probably a bit short of the prototype CHB but he simply gets the job done. Plays tight but knows when to run off. Like his team mates he gave WA great run from defence. He has shown he can spoil well and has played forward at times with East Perth colts and kicked a goal. Pick 15 to 40. Thomas Bellchambers-199cm, 91kg-Northern Bombers. (Ruck). Tasmania’s number one ruckman who’s tap work during the champs was very good. Gets in good positions to hit the ball to his team mates but he can be prone to hitting to nothing spots at times. He has a bit or work to do as far as his around the ground stuff goes. He can take a nice mark and kicks the footy ok for a big bloke. I think someone will take a punt on him simply because of his tap skills. Pick 20 to 50. Lachie Henderson-196cm, 90kg-Geelong Falcons.(Fwd). Hard to line up this year because he has been injured and missed a lot of the season. Played some good footy last year and he was good around the ground and a good mark. Played pretty well in last years TAC Cup finals which pretty much has to be the guide as he has only played two games this year for the Falcons and I have only seen one of them. He has played in the ruck a bit so far but I don’t think he has the height or leap to be an AFL ruckman. His kicking is good for a big bloke. I am not really sure where he will go in the draft. Pick 15 to 40 Darcy Daniher – 192cm, 80kg-Calder Cannons. (CHB) Darcy has been played forward and back, sometimes in the same game, all year in the TAC Cup. When he has played forward he has shown he can kick goals. Can take a good grab and he is a free flowing runner who moves around the ground well. During the Champs he played mainly in defence and although he was not a stand out he did play pretty well. His kicking is pretty strong and he hits targets pretty well. Has had a lot of games where he has had 15 to 20 disposals which isn’t bad for a big bloke. Hasn’t really been outstanding too often but has played solid footy all the way through. Pick 20 to 50. Steve Gaertner-196cm, 83kg-Dandenong Stingrays. (Fwd). Interesting player this bloke. In the games I have seen him play he has certainly looked very athletic with good pace for a big man and pretty good skills. The problem with him when I have been watching is he often looks like he is going to take a game apart only to fade out of the game. Looks like he is on fire but it only last 10 minutes or so. When he is on song he can take a strong grab. Pick 20 to 50. Scott Simpson-194cm, 91kg-Dandenong Stingrays. (Fwd). Good contested marking forward who is a reasonable goal kicker. He has played a bit in the ruck as well but I am not sure he will be big enough to ruck at AFL level. Like Gaertner he looks like he is about to tear a game apart at times but it never really seems to happen. The way he moves around and plays I think he has a huge upside if he can find some consistency. Pick 20 to 40. Andrew Renton-202cm, 94kg-Eastern Rangers. (Ruck). Good size ruckman who has done well for Rangers this year. His tap work is good but he could learn to better direct some of his hit outs. He also has to learn that he must jump at all the ruck contests as he sometimes tries to rely on just his height. When he actually does jump at a contest he looks very good. He is a good mark and his kicking is reliable but he needs to do more around the ground and he wanders from contest to contest a lot of the time rather than getting involved. Can take a grab and kick a goal when he is up forward. Someone will take a punt on him and hope they can get his work rate up to match his raw talent. Pick 25 to 60. James Mulligan-201cm, 96kg-Southport. (Ruck). I have only seen him play three games and he hasn’t really done a lot but in small patch’s he has shown some raw talent. He is mobile. He can kick the footy a mile and can take a mark. Doesn’t do nearly enough around the ground or in the ruck for that matter. Like Renton I think someone will take a chance with him simply because of the raw product. Pick 40 plus. Dave Gourdis-193cm, 88kg-Subiaco. (CHF) Impressed for WA at CHF during the champs. Good sized kid who was very mobile and a good shot at gaol. Kicking skills are pretty good and he was prepared to work hard to present as a target. Seemed to read the play very well and knew where to lead so he could get himself in the game. Pick 10 to 40. Dan McKenna-194cm, 82kg-Gippsland Power. (FWD / BCK). Has had a bit of an up and down year playing in a strong side. Has been used at CHF and CHB during the year. Had some good early form as a key forward but it has dropped of a little as the season has gone on. Had a reasonable time at the Champs without being a star. Has shown some sort of ability to read the play as a back man and he can spoil well if needed. Is pretty lightly built at the moment. Pick 25 to 60. http://www.saintsational.com/forum/viewtop...6d9baae51488e2d

Pick the 2 Biggest weaknesses of each team. ?/Geelong ?/P Adelaide ?West Coast ?/Kangaroos ?/Hawthorn ?/Collingwood ?/Sydney ?/Adelaide 9/St Kilda nk 8/Brisbane 7/Fremantle 6/Essendon 5/W Bulldogs 4/Melbourne 3/Carlton 2/Richmond P*Carlton

MADMONDAYITUS.

I want us to draft 2 speedy midfielders (hard, outside + inside skilled runners), wing + h/back. 1 big bodied tall KPP that can swing @ both ends, crash + pack mark up front / & tame gorilla's. :D http://www.ais.org.au/austrules/henderson.asp If White goes, promote Neaves & draft/rookie ruckman, or if not rookie Neaves for a further year. For further back in the draft there are a couple of possibilities, Paterakis, Valenti, Monaghan, S Martin. http://www.sandringhamfc.com.au/default.as...&aid=120306 Henderson sounds the goods. Now lets do the hard yards & be aggressive & trade a package of players with talent that don't fit our landscape in return for a top 10 pick. Pick 4 = Henderson Pick 7-10 Ebert/Palmer Geelong P Adelaide West Coast Kangaroos Hawthorn Collingwood Sydney Adelaide 9/St Kilda Require a ruckman I think 8/Brisbane 7/Fremantle ?? 6/Essendon 5/W Bulldogs Doggies want rucks & Forwards 4/Melbourne 3/Carlton 2/Richmond P*Carlton

I've heard that Jamar has bone spurs on both heels & has played all this year under duress.

He is.

I'd like to see more of our boys back @ this once great club, ones that have experienced time @ other more successfull AFL clubs, Steven Tingay could be one.

or Chris Connolly,

Yes but if the panel & board deecide against Sheeds, then who's your next preference?

I hope that our new coach has been told of his successfull application to coach the DEES by now & is having some behind the scenes input into this weekends game structure on sunday. B)

Yep that'll do me to.

Well done Shane, your doing yourself & your family proud. Well deserved. B)

Yes. If we keep giving extended contracts to players that are nearly done, out of just generosity, then we'll soon all be flying to surfers paradise every other w/end to see a game.

What if the winner has been one taking the drugs?

Robbo's nearly stuffed physically now , he's got one more good season in him. Give him 1 or let him go.

To Doggy and the Bizz, thanks for the great memories & all the enjoyment of watching you guys play over the years. Well done to both of you, good luck for your futures.. :D

I think the AFL are totally wrong in how they are going about this drugs issue. I agreed with their stance last year but it seems their not wanting to act when they have evidence of illicit drug taking. I agree with 3 strikes idea however I believe it should be public after the 2nd strike & a severe suspension of the players registration following the 3rd strike. C,mon AFL, stop burying your head in the sand.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cypher --- carlton supporters website. Rod Ashman Joined: Nov 01, 2004 Posts: 784 Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:48 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We win either way if the Roos, Power or Lions overlook Kreuzer and he falls into our lap. It would be even sweeter if the Bombers were forced to take Kreuzer or Henderson just to address a weakness on their list and overlook a gun. Laycock and Hille are average after Cloke and Ackland broke even with them and Ryder should be polishing his ruck skills for four quarters in the twos. Laycock is a bust. Hampson was an astute choice by Hughes and it's amusing to read Bombers' fans saying we stuffed up by picking Jetta. The cards might not fall our way this year and we might miss out on a Kreuzer when there's usually a handfull of Jettas in every draft. If we finish second last on four points with the Roos or Lions winning the spoon we will have picks one and three. That would give us a better list of kids than Hawthorn who lack pacy runners and quality tall defenders. Carlton would rip the **** out of the competition in three years and succeed where the Saints have failed. _________________ **** it!

I think your spot on 'CHAMP', But I haven't read where anyone has said he's a champ ready to go like Judd turned out to be, but in my mind is a top yearling needing good guidance before being a cup winner.

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