DV8

Can't stand the bloke, what he did; but Aussies do appreciate stuff. He needs some acknowledgement.

"near enough, is good enough"

Whoever the worst players were in that period should be chopped back to Casey. No point letting them continue a bad footy behavior and stay in the side. They have to learn that lack of focus & intensity, will not be allowed any longer in RednBlue. We are Re-bilding for premierships, not sheep farms for the boys... time to give something back, you elite sports people.

When Bugg is in the side, we tend to play better/win. Even if he doesn't star on the stats sheet. Start lever on the wing defensive end. with Frost on Waite. Lever to push back across half back sweeping. Our half forwards can push up high.

He does jr. But he needs to 'kick the door in' prior to. He hasn't played a game for points, just yet. I would wait until after the 1st game in the VFL, and see how he goes under some heat first.

It happens at every club every year. Putting feelers out. Sometimes its dunn to put a rocket under a player, who is coasting along. So mostly, not serious in those occasions. Players most times do not know when a club puts feelers out, Re the player. But other clubs can try the wedge the player, telling them their club is shopping them. It happens a lot and not many deals get done.

Yeah, heart flutters have given way to numbing disbelief, at the way we switch down our minds & intensity. We can never win finals, playing anything like this. Typical Melbournefc attitude, during games when we take a lead. We sit back in the armchair, and want table service. This is the Melbourne attitude, in its rawest form. This IS what destroys this club. Nil killer instinct, Far too nice. We need players, who want blood.

The feebleness is the players disappearance, and not really reacting to stop opponents run on. We sit back, and let them back in. Speaking of a habitual trait. The end result last night showed how far we are ahead of the Lions, at this stage, yet we let them come right back from 6 goals down, to level with us; instead of us keeping our foot on their necks. We should have won by 10 goals last nigh,t with the 1st half play we had brought with us. We should have buried that team last night, and the non-ability in our players heads, to not Fulfill that, is a REAL concern.

I agree we show the ability to fightback now, compared to the post 2010 era, but even in the early 2000's we weren't all that good at lifting, against a team that was keeping its foot on our neck. This is a habit of Melbourne teams that have tended to be front runners. good in the easy going. bad against Real Pressure teams. found out in finals. Yesterday we played a team of kids. We have a few years on them. This is what I want to see from this club/team. a club team that will maintain the pressure on oppositions sides until they break. What worries me is that even tho we might rebuild the list, we still might have those traditional Melbourne flaws of being too soft to bury opponents. (individuals and teams). TMac and Viney; we cannot keep making excuses when a couple of senior players are out. 2 out of 22 . Its just that we HAVE to Expect More,,,, if we are to ever do better. This club has done very well at making many players wealthy, and they didn't achieve, or perform at their absolute possible best, most professional, for us. Yet we still herald them as champs. champs of what? nice boys club. It has to change, or we will continue putting out more, and more, of the same as in our past.

Hunt has to learn to be more than one dimensional. As does Salem. So many of our young players are One dimensional at the moment and we will have to teach them before we win any silverware. I agree that the back structure is challenging some players, but that's footy. Frost coming in, would mean we can use him all over the ground, choose at the time. He can drop back, or go forward as decoy and play defensive tall feeding our small players, or even chop-out in the ruck, swap with Pedo.

D's v Roos Hibberd, OMc, Frost Wagner, Lever, Hunt Lewis, Petracca, Jones Melksham, Pedersen, Harmes Fritsch, Hogan, Garlett Gawn Oliver Neal-Bullen Int: Tyson Bugg Salem Jetta Emg: Stretch,

is Wagner a 'run-with' possibility, dimmy?

So you think we are somewhere between 12th & 8th ? Mr D-9 ? Again its not about this game GCDee; but rather about seeing Real Progress. Instead of the same old feebleness game after game, season on season, from the RednBlue.

Done a B,.,.,..,,, or did everyone here underestimate how good he could become? thats not bradb.,.,. that is development. We don't gift games any longer. If we want to become ruthless, we have to act on the training track & at selection meetings. If he's dew an early morning wake-up call, so be it. Let him kick the dew drops off the grass down at Casey. Might freshen him up a bit. I'm not so sure about that one Sigs. We gave up too much for Lever. Time will tell just how much it has cost? ^ ^ ^

ruthless has to start inside the clubs leadership, from the coaches, selectors, to the co-captains. see hodge... captains have to make sure the players are doing their all,,, or they can go back to the VFL. ruthless has to begin NOW.

Give him time, he's doing some good things, and we need variation in the middle. we can't have all vineys, jones's, petracca's, tyspon's, maynards & lewis's, only in our mid setup. Oli' aside, we need more variation in the setup. I think we have to allow Salem to get more time thru the middle, as well as Hogan. Hannan, and eventually Fritta, once hes got 20+ games under his kilt. Time will unearth some gems we didn't expect, in the centre square for us, we just gotta keep diggin it. they'll turn up.

I'm sure that had an effect the short week for us & the humidity. May have made a us a tad lazy once we had the solid lead. But this is still really unacceptable, to allow ourselves to drop intensity like it sounded. I know the lions lifted, but that's not easy to do If we had of kept our intensity up on them. This is still the old melbourne trait. s.o.f.t. Winning is not a strong enough enough motivation to keep the pedal to the metal. I don't know why that is, but it is. - genuine 'A' graders... where are they.

We need Frost next week, so Omac can take Brown, Frost to Waite. Lever chipping in. But the biggest job will be done by our mids, defensively; and the half forwards.

go fritta

red & blue, hot & cold.

reckon you might get your wish Do.

Maybe he has one hand on them, most of the time?

me, a spriteful 61.

No your not, by a long way. But where we came from (D's) is also relative, talking 50/60's. Many here were tantalized by stories of this great club, back then, and were then tormented by a lifetime of disappointment. So truth is if you haven't experienc3ed it then you really don't know the full storyline of emotional hurt. Us oldies should relate in some way, with the aboriginal storylines of the past 200 + years.