RalphiusMaximus

That's the theory behind offering him two years with a trigger clause for a third. One year to get his game back in shape, second year he needs to perform. Length of contract could be a big factor in luring him to Melbourne.

He was linked to Sydney a week ago. If we offer him decent terms he can be linked to us too.

I agree it's not a high percentage move, but the potential rewards are great if it comes off. Given how little it costs to take the chance it is worth the risk. Offer him two years with an activation clause in his second. He gets a year to get fit and find form, then he needs to play senior footy in 2021.

As far as I can see, there's only one serious talent in the PSD. Either we go for Martin or we sit it out.

Reminds me of a punt Hawthorn took once on a fat ex-footballer.

I HOPE this is the thinking.

Worrying about an 18 year old kid not playing in his first season is pointless. He shouldn't be playing seniors in his first season anyway. A year of rehab means he will be better prepared physically when he does debut.

I hadn't actually noticed that you posted both comments. ?

To force them to use their first pick on him. If he's not nominated before their first pick then they grab another talented kid and then pay for him later in the draft.

JKH and Stretch are gone. We can expect Wagner to be upgraded to the main list I think. So two live draft picks, one rookie upgrade and we have two spots still up for grabs. One of those is probably the guy from Collingwood. Hopefully the other is Martin or Bennell.

My ideal result would be Kemp and one of Young or Serong. Kemp could be a superstar while the other two both fill genuine needs.

He won't be in the draft. He's a free agent. He can simply walk in to whichever club comes to an agreement with him.

Or possibly he feels that the player we're eyeing off at 8 this year is better than anyone we'll get in the next draft? Given that Kemp won't play next year you could regard him as next year's draftee. His quality would put him well in the upper ranks of next year's group. I look at that footage of Kemp and I see good burst pace and plenty of power. His attack on the ball reminds me a little of some plays David Schwarz made in his day where he burst through tackles. Obviously this kid isn't another Schwarz (wouldn't it be awesome if he were?), but he has power and explosiveness and he can kick. We keep talking about how the club plays it safe with their picks. This is another kind of risk, and we should back ourselves in to manage him properly and get a star out of it.

Ideally I'd like us to go after both of them.

He wouldn't be a FA if he came to us.

He's also over 2m tall, mid 20s and topped the goalkicking for Glenelg this year. He walked out on the Tigers because he didn't want to play footy anymore, grew up a bit and decided he really does want to play, hence the SANFL. Good on set shots too.

Funny, I've mostly had the opposite reaction. Guys like Dunn and Robertson were much bigger in person than they seemed on the TV. Of course, I also bumped into JKH in a crowd and he barely came up to my chin, so it goes both ways...

It was mentioned very briefly on SEN. They felt that Martin might put an unrealistic price on himself to discourage us. Not sure that would work given Carlton can't be any better off than us with their cap. Maybe the theory is that he goes to them then renegotiates a new deal? Either way, as far as I'm concerned he's the best possible option for us in the PSD. Certainly a better option than upgrading a rookie to fill a list spot or re-signing Stretch and JKH.

Still want this guy. We can go for the little pacey guy at three and hope he's still standing (or not given his knee) at eight.

I think it's a bit of a Meh to be honest. Langdon for a second round pick is fine. Frost was an ok deal. I think we lost out a but on the gifting of extra low-round picks in the deals we made. I'm certainly not sold on giving up next year's first pick, although the draft looks like it will suck so maybe it's worth it. My big issue is that we went and got our two easy targets and then sat on our hands for the rest of the period. Maybe the press simply didn't hear about any attempts, but surely we should have been sniffing around trying to shake get in on Martin or Papley or trying to bring in a tall forward?

I too like the look of Jordan. I think he'll take a little time to get his body ready for AFL, but he moves really well and looks to have good disposal. I suspect he's going to wind up one of those guys who just look smooth and have a little more time than they should.

Posted this in the splitting the pick thread, but what about trying for Wright and Martin as a package. Wright in particular would be a nice addition and I've been wanting Martin for a while.

I don't know if this has been floated before and can't be bothered reading 27 pages to find out. What would people think of Peter Wright and Jack Martin as a package? I have a feeling we need to use a first round pick this year, but if we sent picks 3 and 26 their way in exchange for Wright, Martin and 15?

Cooked at 27? I think he might have a couple of games left in him.

I wonder if we threw Stretch and pick three at GC for a player and a later first round pick, who would we be able to get? I know there were rumours around Stretch going there. A drop from third to fifteenth should warrant a pretty good player. Maybe convince Martin that his future is with us?