jnrmac

There is re-writing of history going on here - people have short memories. It wasn't about winning the trade, it was about the fact we were so appalling as a football team that we needed to get 2 decent players into the team rather than one. Josh Kelly is clearly a gun and Tyson was 3 yrs into his development. And altho it didn't work out - we did get Pruess - if we had Kelly as a fledgling player there is every chance we would have ruined his career as we have done with a number of low picks and every chance our improvement would have been delayed which we couldn't afford

The AA is a bit of a joke but you're right. Max is clearly the best ruckman with hitouts and taps to advantage. And...the AFL put him on the bench. Idiots

We've been stuffed by the AFL and/or the expansion clubs every time we bottom out

Personally I am glad that the club decided to reset after the bye. It was great getting those two wins agains Freo and Carlton. Made the year really worthwhile and we have set ourselves up for a blinder in 2020. Lets hope we have no more of these "line in the sand" games and "the players take full responsibility" for a complete c*ckup of a season.

Its an internet forum, Why are you here then? If you don't believe him, great, ignore him.

You clearly didn't see his work that got the ball to ANB in the last 40 seconds of the game

Not sure your maths is right... At 3/4 time rd 9 WCE +12pts kicked 1.3 to 6.1 lost by 16 Rd 11 Adel +16 kicked 1.8 to 5.2 lost by 2pts Rd 18 WCE +6 kicked 1.2 to 4.3 lost by 13 Rd 23 NM +5 kicked 1.7 to 3.1 lost by 5 So 4 games leading at 3/4 time and kicked 4.20 to lose all 4. Our opponents kicked 18.7 Appalling

Throwing...

We all hope the Dees win but for a team that is broken, with no leadership, no coaching clues and no pride playing the last game of the year in sub zero conditions you would have to say the Kangas by 85 with Brown kicking 14

Another trip to the PLayers Association for these millenial lightweights

Fairly typical. Haven't seen a second of the game but chime in with pithy comments 'what does anyone expect' I'll tell you. We expect effort. We expect running, chasing and tackling - not too many skills required there. We expect to see what Simon is doing with a game plan that has been useless all year. There is nothing there whatsoever that anyone can hang their hat on. Not a spark. Just disharmony, no direction and probably worse is the same cr*p dished up week after week. Goodwin is clueless. The coaching panel is in complete disarray. The players are in complete disarray. There is no leadership. IN fact it looks like the rimours of a split between two opposing camps is about right - they're playing that way. DOn't care for each other, don't lead to the right spots, can't cover their men. Sam e old same old. We've won 5 games, 3 by less than a goal. It's pathetic and frankly looks beyond redemption.

We've won 5 games, 3 by less than a goal and play like this - then you post absolute garbage. Pathetic excuses can't cover up what a shambolic clusterf*** this club is.

Yeah but the happy clappers will keep bagging everyone on here that is frustrated beyond belief about how this club and the coaching panel have [censored] up our team. I hate football.

Swans don't have a real ruckman at all

He's a serial apologist for the coaching staff who wouldn't know a defender from his toenail. The bin is the right place.

It's all about structure and ours is terrible. If the players don't know where to stand or who to mind ten we have a structure problem. No one can deny we like the 'bees to the honeypot' structure though.

90 minutes of promoting P Roos Inc. He was always good at that.

Spargo has fallen a long way. Unless he is injured and I have missed it?

Must be careful at this point of the season not to laugh at anything lest Adrian Anderson is brought back to investigate....

I never said it did. You're good at presuming for other posters. It is clearly a reflection of the disfunction/failure of our present coaching set up - against what many of the happy clappers have been saying. I think I have worked out what camp you're in.

The problem is that the "bees to the honeypot" has been going on for 2 years. Everyone knows it. We get the ball we get tackled. They get the ball to the outside and its off to the races. It's not rocket science - it's coaching pure and simple. Its structure and discipline. The whole game is structure and discipline. We look lost. The players haven't a clue where to run, where to stand, when to kick , where to kick etc. When a player is actually instructed to stand like Jones was on the weekend, the players must think WTF?? Nothing to do with injuries. Its about having a plan that the 40 players can understand and execute. Most clubs do it pretty well yet some here think Goodwin is the messiah and give him a free pass. We need to be angry at what he has done to our team. And now its 'imploding' with McCartney, Jennings and others going.

Jennings gone McCartney gone Rawlings brought back Plapp de-emphasised. Chapman hopeless. But Goody's the man.

It's you.

That can't be right....Its all the surgeries we had over summer....Goody told us.... Some people can't see the nose on their face. So Jennings and Mccartney both gone. Chapman should go and so should Plapp. If we can't get rid of Goodwin we need to get decent assistants pronto.