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Bizzell played in the reserves last year primarily because injury derailed his season. He has been a very good defender for the football club over a long period of time and his actions had a lot to do with Al Nicholson staying in the AFL as long as he did. Plays a very similar role to Rivers and only aging legs are diminishing his output nowadays...was a v.good player

Miller did a good job on Fisher, thought Wheatley and McDonald were our best slightly followed by Bate. C.Johnson was useless and was massacred by Carlton's best player (Simpson) when on him

Youre right, Jarka, but McEvoy has incredible scope for improvement and a great engine - top 5 pick for mine - curiously he trained with Melbourne last year as part of the communities program.

I think Brown would have been so trumatised last week that it almost behooved the club to give him another game because he would be so keen to do well

Kreuzer, Cotchin and Ebert look the players most likely to be taken with early picks. I'm a big fan of Ben McEvoy, a ruckman from Vic Country, and Cyril Rioli, an indigenous small utility.

Cam Bruce will probably play on Lucas, he destroyed him in a reserves game many years ago, a game which helped him get recruited

B: Bell Carroll Whelan HB: Bizzell Bruce Ward C: Green McLean Wheatley HF: Sylvia Bate Davey F: Petterd Robertson Holland Foll: White McDonald Rov: Jones I/c: Godfrey, P.Johnson, Newton, Pickett Emerg: Brown, Warnock, Dunn In: Whelan, Newton Out: Yze (inj) Frawley

6. Jeff White 5. Brad Green 4. Clint Bizzell 3. Simon Godfrey 2. Ben Holland 1. Paul Johnson

Wheatley has to be in the best six

I would add Maric, Gaertner and Banner to list of players to watch

Pies bench will probably be Thomas, Goldsack, Licuria, Bryan

I think Holland will come in for the Rocca and you're right Godders for Swan, thats who other clubs have been tagging

I think Wheats is under-rated - had a dodgy year last year and his season this year has been ruined by injury, but prior to that he was alright. He is quick and a good kick - a vast attribut improvement on many.

Jones has more mongrel in him than West which is great, think West has more innate ballwinning ability though, but the potential is there for Jonesy to be a great player.

Mate, you get this everywhere you go - there is a guy who sits in the Redlegs/Tridents area who every week calls players idiots and groans like a jackal throughout the game - was good to see him shut up after another fan threatened to smash him when he called Jeff White a f** idiot.

6. C. Bruce 5. J. McDonald 4. N. Jones 3. J. White 2. C. Bizzell 1. D. Neitz

He also shifts his hand at the last minute and raises his eyes late which gives him an uneven ball drop. These issues are very hard to fix because it takes tens of thousands of kick repetitions to re-perfect an ingrained kicking technique. Toddy just had to become a more handball oriented player to become a gun, maybe Jones will have to do that, because otherwise he will waste a lot of his excellent ground work and run.

Jones is a very similar player to Todd Viney - in that he's a terrific scrapper and worker but is let down by a serious technical kicking flaw, which needs to be rectified, or his kick:handball ratio lowered, for him to become a great, not just good, player.

Bell wasnt loose and kept the abysmal (on the day) dwards reasonably quiet, though Edwards had chances to kick a few. Wouldnt say that was Godfrey's best game - his man Harvey was influential for the Roos.

Effective kick 4 Points Ineffective kick 0 Points Clanger kick -8 Points Handball effective 2 Points Ineffective handball 0 Points Handball clanger -6 Points Handball receive 1 Point Hardball get 4 Points Loose-ball get 4 Points Goal 8 Points Behind 1 Point Mark uncontested (maintaining possession) 1 Point Mark contested (maintaining possession) 6 Points Mark uncontested (from opposition) 4 Points Mark contested (from opposition) 8 Points Tackles 4 Points Free kick for 4 Points Free kick against -6 Points Hitout to Advantage 3 Points

And Brown and Armstrong are on the Eagles list and theyre not playing. Gameday will update the list 30 mins prior to the first bounce when they get the sanctioned team lists

He was actually on our senior list, but I dont think he was ever close to a game. Had hamstring trouble and probably only played about a half dozen reserve games. Was a strongly built flanker with a penetrative kick who, with a receding hairline, looked a lot older than he was. Predominantly a half back and was recruited from Port Adelaide via Port Augusta. Think of Luke Norman and you have roughly the same sort of player in Taylor. Not sure where he is playing now, if at all.

Ward wasnt loose he played a solid accountable game on Eagleton

And Jaded, did you see Petterd's suicidal effort at going for the ball in the second quarter (i think) - fearless stuff! Bate doesnt do that - yet.

Well Jaded, the crucial mark he dropped in the third quarter was the result of him dropping his head and he did it again in that quarter. Watch the replay and come back to me on that one. He's a good kid but he needs to improve his contesting aerially and at ground level, that's part of his learning process. The other parts of his game clicked today which was great, but when they didn't (ala the previous month), he was pretty poor. FWIW I played a good game once when I knew there was a $100 bonus to any opposition player who put me on a stretcher, so if you want to have a go at my credentials to comment thats up to you to decide, but there are much tougher footballers than me and Bate who post on this board