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And for what it's worth: Lumumba, JKH, Kennedy, White and Trengove to go. 5 is a pretty reasonable turnover. [ed: forgot White was only on the rookie list. Four changes to the senior list might be underdoing it.] Hulett or King will only go if we need spots, and only with the intention of being rookie listed. Otherwise they'll be given time as developing talls. vanders will be signed for another two, or one if the injury prognosis is really grim. Has too high a ceiling to give up on him yet. Tim Smith for a second year on the rookie list if he doesn't do enough for a promotion to the senior list in the back half of the season. Isn't Pedersen up again this year? Thought he only signed for one. He's a year by year proposition, but at this stage I'm leaning towards keeping him while there is so much uncertainty around our development talls.

I was of the belief that it wouldn't help too, but whatever. Angus has access to much better advice than I do, so if he thinks this will help - even if it is purely for confidence - I'm all for it.

Best of luck. Hope he is able to get it right, as he is an asset at his best.

It's never too soon. I start thinking about it before round 1 usually. It's fun to see how my own view changes as the season unfolds.

Spencer AFL or VFL "depending on matchups" according to Misson. The caveat on matchups is just the fitness guy not overstepping the boundaries of his role by pre-empting selection - clearly Spencer is an upgrade on Pedersen in the ruck (who is an upgrade on TMac as second ruck/forward, who is an upgrade on OMac as a defender) and they view Spencer as 100% fit and primed. Zero doubt in my mind that he's in now.

With pick 9? And being Nathan's brother would have been irrelevant to the recruitment team. If I was going to rewrite history on that draft I'd pick Cripps at 9 - but I'm pretty happy with Salem.

It's been their grand final too lately anyway. How many players on their list have actually played in one?

And possibly Spencer.

Nothing like a completely needless whack at a player on our list. There's about 30 players on our list that Lever is an upgrade on - why single out one of them?

Will it though? I felt a big wave of indifference pass through me when I read it. I thought it just made him sound like a total moron, especially when you look at his 'success' record as highlighted by Scythe above.

Yes - confirmed as just being a stock photo from earlier in the year.

Thanks. It's probably obvious to the locals, but I'm from Tassie and wouldn't know Burbank Oval from the Gabba. Unless it's the MCG or Etihad, good chance I've never been near it...

Jesus. Why would they do that? Social media 101 surely. I thought it odd that not one of the reports thus far mentioned that he played - I'd have thought that to be a pretty key piece of information.

Is that Pedersen I spy in the circle in the photo on the MFC facebook page?

Yep - there was similar commentary around when Hunt was drafted. Some people like to think they know more about it than those paid to do it for a living. That's all part of the fun though. You'd think recruiting intelligence plays a part in recruiting players like this out of (relative) nowhere. "This player is no certainty to make it, but we like him and we have reason to believe <x> club is going to move if we don't. Better not take the risk by waiting until the rookie draft, and snatch him now" type thing.

Great compilation - a mix of clutch moments in games (how calm was Jeff White?) and just miracle goals. Funny how to passage of time becomes blurry after a while. I had to double take when I saw Dean Kent on screen in one of the Flash goals. Hard to believe Flash has only been off the list for four years, that feels like a bloody lifetime ago.

I got the impression we did the opposite of convincing him to say. He's become a good player at the Pies, but he was a good player at the MFC, too. Let's not forget the frustrating inconsistency he showed when here though. Like stmj says above, I'm not prepared to bet on his output being sustained yet.

Man, they sure knew how to dole out cringeworthy jingles in the 80s.

The banter on GNF is beyond boring these days. I just choose to go with believing him if it's something I want to hear, and ignoring him if it's not. I believe you, GNF.

You'd only run a player of Hogan's calibre at Casey if he'd been out a long time and was badly out of condition, so you had doubts over his ability to run out a game. Hogan had a huge preseason, was in prime condition at the beginning of the season and has only been out a few weeks. He can find his touch in the ones. If he's feeling as fresh as I'm hoping, it won't take long.

Because Coniglio, Lobb and Smith are injured? The rest are past it old guys, run of the mill players and people the average fan will never have heard of.

Do you reckon Dusty would have knocked 'em over in the interview?

We got pick 3 and 4 for Scully; 3 was ontraded back to GWS for the Hogan mini-draft pick. Sadly we drafted the Toump with pick 4, but I see that as failure independent to the outcome of the Scully pick. The compensation we got for Scully was good and I'd prefer Hogan. Trengove's horrendous injury outcome wasn't predictable and is in no way is BP's fault - that's just luck of the draw. As Forest Demon said above, it was those 10-20 picks that really slaughtered us and set us back years. I'm quite happy to blame BP for that. Gawn was an inspired pick though.

Do you think the competition's elite players from Tas/NSW/Qld players would be interested in playing a half-arsed second tier competition? When Tas fielded standalone teams in the past it was often populated with a lot of local competition players - but that was when the local competition was strong and a legitimate pathway in and out of the AFL. That's not the case now. We had one notable victory against the "Big V" in 1990, but when you look at the Victorian team, it was a shadow of "best possible". If we'd have played a team containing Dunstall, Ablett etc we'd have been annihilated. From all three states, all the AFL players would all be picked by default, and if they're not available then the quality of available players will fall away quickly. It would soon descend in to a farce. For it to be interesting for the players from the minor states, they'd have to have the opportunity to play the major states, but that would then create the issues raised in my previous post.

Out just means out. Injured/omitted/promoted to seniors/rested all covered. Plapp's reports have been encouraging on Filipovic's progress - unfortunately it would seem he is injured this week.