Lord Travis

You mean the same guy who DIRECTLY COST HIS TEAM 3 GOALS THROUGH BASIC ERRORS just off the top of my head? The same guy who fluffed basic 25-30 metre passes under no pressure? The same guy who fumbled bouncing and ran straight into a guy probably half his size and got pwned? Yeah, that guy! He didnt need to dominate? He didnt because he's not good enough. If he's a #1 pick he should be at least in the top few players on the ground and having a big positive impact for his team. He did neither. If we're going to have #1 pick, I want a guaranteed star, not a speculative superstar. We probably wont have another #1 pick for over 10 years again. Best make good use of it and pick someone who is going to be a guaranteed star. No doubting he is an athletic freak and COULD be something special. BUT, in my opinion he doesnt look like he has the smarts to put it all together. He struggles with the basics and doesnt have footy smarts. He's an athlete, not a footballer. I dont think it's worth the risk personally. Hopefully we manage to poach Warnock, and then take Watts. Then we'll have got ourselves a gun young ruckman and gun forward in one hit.

I think they may pinch #1 pick from us the way theyre going. Playing awful footy at the moment. And now resting they're star midfielder, Braun retiring, Cox possibly off for surgery on his foot later this year... Going to be a tough ask finishing lower than them with the spirit we've been showing!

Well done to the kid. At the start of the year I didnt have high hopes, but he has sure proved me wrong. Hopefully he continues to put on abit more upper body strength and develop nicely. I'd hate for him to be a one year wonder But he looks like he will be around for a long time. I even added him on facebook Im so impressed

B&F winner: Brad Green Season Underachiever: Nathan Jones Season Overachiever: Paul Wheatley Best First Year Player: Wonaehzdwaget8LOL Best Clubman: Brad Green Final Position: 15th Number One pick: IF we have #1, I'd say Watts Delistings: Weetra, Holland. Bode? Retiring: Neitz, Yze. Trade: Bell This should be interesting.

Nata has alot of upside, but (flame away morons) currently he isnt a pinch of [censored] on a footballer. He won alot of taps today from his freakish leap, but around the ground he was woeful. I actually lold at him a few times and thought to myself how the [censored] is this guy the supposed #1 pick?! He is a freakish athelete, but he isnt a footballer. He doesnt know where to run to get possessions, and he doesnt read the play around the ground all that well, and his skills are average. He is 4-5 years away from having any impact at AFL level, and that's assuming it all works out and he puts it all together. Rich was great. He is Luke Hodge mach 2. Can be abit lazy and doesnt have elite fitness, but his skills and smarts are elite. Will be a great player for whoever picks him up. Unfortunately our needs are elsewhere. Watts had an average day due to poor supply, but he still showed why he is being talked about as a #1 pick also. His marking is strong, his leading is strong, he is quick off the mark and he has good skills. He is still skinny, and with abit more size to him he will be a great forward who will cause match up horrors. Abit of Reiwolt style player in that he has strength and agility. We need a tall forward, and he is it. He won the Larke medal for best player of the champs, and our very own Cale Morton won it last year. Lets make it two in a row! Hurley was great. Best defender Ive seen at that level, but he wont go #1 because he is a defender. Whoever gets him though has a Scarlet/Lake combo for the next 10+ years. Hartlett from SA also looked great. He is nearly on par with Rich IMO. He has great pace and skills, and you would think he'd round out the top 5. IMO, we should go hard for Warnock whether we have to trade or get him PSD. We get him, we take Watts with our pick, then look for one of the speedy mids with our late teens pick. I think if we get pick 1, and Freo have pick 3, we should look to trade pick 1 to pick 3 plus Warnock. They want Rich or Naita, and they might not get either. Give them #1 pick so they are free to choose one of the two, then West Coast will take the other. Neither will draft Watts as he doesnt want to leave Victoria and is roughly on par with the other two anyway. Then hopefully we'd get Warnock, Watts, a speedy mid with late teens pick, and save out PSD pick for bargaining or the best player around. Wishful thinking I know, but could be done.

Also, cant wait for a Garland vs Murphy match up. Seems like a perfect match and could be something special to watch!

Not to be an @sshole or anything, but how is Brad Green not winning this? He has been superb all year and in AA contention IMO. He has been good every game and leading from the front with his courageous marks and directing the play from HB. Would be happy with him as our next captain actually!

Really cant wait to see this kid in action. I've got a jumper with 16 on it, and I'd like not to have to change it :D But seriously the guy has big wraps on him. He was a great leader at junior level, a ball winning midfielder/HBF, and would've gone top 10 in the draft if he didnt have back injuries late in the year. It's always good to hear stories like Grimes' where they supported the club growing up and are over the moon to be wearing the red and blue. Hopefully he has a long and fruitful career.

He obviously hasnt set the world on fire over his career thus far, but his last 3 weeks since being brought into the team have been good. He's been told by Bailey and co what he needed to fix and improve in his game, and to his credit he appears to have done that. I havent been his greatest fan to date, but if he keeps up his current form then he is in our 22 and hopefully will be for years to come. We need some classy rebounders and CJ could be one of them. Keep it up!

Inspirational bit of play that was! He's doing it regularly now too. Great signs from big PJ who is having a great year. How good was the crowd also?! The sound from the members wing was amazing yesterday. Kudos to us all :D

From what I gather, Minson made a sledge to Kane Cornes about his team having about as much heart as his 2 year old son....who has a heart defect. Pretty disgusting IMO. Also considering Kane had just had a 2nd son the night before, he did well not to let it set him off. If I was him I wouldn't have been able to hold myself back from smashing him into next week.

Would if we could mate lol Think Rivers' career is pretty much over. He's barely played since 2005, was in average form then anyway, and the game has changed since them. It's faster, more taxing on the body, and he's going to struggle to keep up even if he is fully fit. Sad to see such a talented player cut down. We've had a few of them in our time havent we

Good stuff. Love Hamish (and to a lesser extent Andy). Bloody good effort getting that many members in what is a pathetic year. Just goes to show there are supporters out there handing over their money and doing their part. Now hopefully the team can repay us in the future for what we've had to put up with recently

White dropped, Jamar still in the side? It's official then. Melbourne FC= 08 Lets hope Naita is worth it!

Considering the position we are in, our membership numbers this year and fantastic! We're bottom of the table 2nd year running, struggling off the field also, and yet we are pulling in numbers on the verge of our best ever. I think that's a pretty good effort personally. When we start to perform on field, those numbers will rise even higher next year and so on.

It is a culture problem at the club that lead to inconsistency from supremely talented players. The thing that gets me is all of you calling him a soft front runner, despite the fact he is getting more contested possessions and clearances than players like Jones! And also, he had his worst game of the year today, but it was due to injury. You're all saying 'blah blah gets tagged and turns to sh*t', but fact is he copped an injury today and struggled to move properly all game. I actually went today, so if you didnt bother watching the game and are just assuming he got tagged and performed poorly, then you're a moron and part of the reason this place has turned to drivel this year. Stop slagging him off, and start pointing the finger at someone who is actually performing poorly like Bruce or Bell etc.

Brock goes in harder than anyone else in our team, except for maybe Jones. Difference is Brock gets ball around the ground to and uses it well. Brock is having a good season so far, and is battling hard in a poor team with a slow and often inexperienced midfield. Criticizing him is idiotic.

You f*cking morons. Travis hurt his hamstring in the 3rd minute of the game today and thus played only around 65% gametime. Last week, as with a number of times this year, he raped the opposition. 2 weeks ago he had 32 disposals, 14 of those contested, 9 clearances, 2 goals and 8 tackles. He's single handedly dragged the Lions over the line in 3-4 tight games this year. His season thus far is possibly the best of his career, and he puts pretty much all Melbourne players bar Mclean to shame. I really hate seeing him get badmouthed on here. Do you all hate Thompson, Jolly, Woe, Walshy etc as well? Ridiculous thread. P.S Yze_Magic, if Buckley is where amazing happens then we are utterly [censored]. Let's hope we can ship him off to Freo for pick 150.

Since everyone keeps talking about Naita, I'm gonna throw my two cents in here. Flame me if you want, I dont give a [censored] because most of you havent even see him play. I think if we've got a #1 pick, why not use it on a midfielder or KPP. Ruckman seems like a waste, And don't start the he's so much more than a ruckman. He's not. He hasnt proved that, and it's all speculative at this point. He needs to do alot more if he's going to be worth a #1 pick. Yes he is very athletic and has POTENTIAL to be something great, but I think it would be better to take a mid with the #1 pick. Look at last years draft. Kreuzer IMO will be nothing more than an average ruckman. Cotchin and Palmer look like superstars already. Masten and Morton have both shown glimpses of being something special. Kreuzer is a wasted #1 pick if you ask me. Naita might be different, but I think we can get a decent ruckman with a far less important pick, or even the PSD with Warnock. Then take Rich or Hurley with #1. Rich is a jet. He's a 17 year old playing in the WAFL against men and copping a no.1 tag already, and still managing to average 16 possessions a game despite being thrown into a back pocket at times. He is tough, and has elite footskills on both feet. He will be a Hodge style star IMO. Hurley is a gun KPP. All Australian last year already as a fullback. Been thrown forward a few times this year to spice it up and kicked a bag of 6 from CHF. He is a more natural defender though. And before you ask, yes, I've seen 2 WAFL games of both Naita and Rich. Naita was average. An atheltic freak, but can he learn to translate that into a footballing world? His taps go to noone right now. People marvel at how he roves once the ball hits the deck. The reason it hit the deck in the first place is because he tapped it to nowhere and had to chase after it to make up for it. His best game I saw he barely got any of the ball and the only reason I even knew he was playing was because he stands out so much from his appearances. Rich was average also. Think he only got 17 touches, but some of his kicks through the middle were [censored] marvelous. He gets his own bal too. Tough little bugger. He'll need to learn to cope with tags though, but you'd hope that comes with experience and age. Both showed only glimpses, but Rich looks alot safer bet if you ask me.

I mentioned this in the Prismall/Lonergan thread last night. I think he is possibly the best player I've ever seen.

Can we wait until the season is over before talking about this? Naita could well keep improving, he could stagnate. He has potential, but he could also be a huge blunder. He doesnt have great skills, he doesnt get alot of the ball, he doesnt take many marks. Still alot of question marks over him if you ask me. Let's wait until the season is through before we start pumping the guys tyres up too much. Rich, Hurley, or someone not even mentioned here could completely tear up the season and be a better pick up. Palmer tore it up last year, was thought to be a 2nd rounder at the start of the year. We all know what happened. Went pick 6, is having one of the best first years ever IMO Averaging 25 touches in his first season with little support!! Wait out the season before all this talk gets thrown around. Using a pick 1 on a ruck is a waste anyway IMO Don't go saying "ZOMG BUT HE ISNT JUST A RUCK!!1! HE CAN PLAY ANYWHERE!!" No he can't. He was thrown forward last week and had no impact there. He doesnt take many marks, and is poor at contested marks, which are needed to play as a key forward. Only 8% of his taps have been to advantage this season, which seems poor to me. And he doesnt get much of the ball around the ground. One of his best games this season where he's gotten wraps for showing a glimpse, he got 13 touches. Hardly Cox like. I know he's playing in the WAFL against men, but still not great return for a supposed #1 pick. Enough of this talk for a few months please.

Stupid Thread.

Definitely a good idea. Lol I completely forgot about the PSD for a minute there Depends on his contract status though doesnt it? Anyone able to find out what his contract status is? If not, then I'd still be willing to trade for him. He really is a talented player cursed with trying to break into an amazing midfield. He's been consistently racking up 30+ possessions in the VFL all year. Just did a bit of research on him myself. Drafted 2004 at pick 32. Is 21, turning 22 in July, so he's still young and fits into our 23 and under policy. Debuted in 2006, played 8 games and averaged around 14 possessions. Only managed 5 games last year due to Geelongs fantastic year and slab of All Australian midfielders. In those 5 games he averaged 18 possessions. This year has been emergency 8 times, playing his second game for the year tonight. Hasnt played AFL for nearly 2 months, and he racked up 21 touches tonight, including 7 inside 50s and 3 tackles off limited gametime. I really think he would be a great pick up if we managed to get him off Geelong. He can win the ball himself, but more importantly he has good skills, which is something we need. On a completely unrelated note, anyone see Ablett's game tonight? Phenomenal! 39 touches, 2 goals, 6 tackles, 8 clearances. Unbelievable. On his form this year and last, he is better now than Judd ever was IMO.

Forget Tenace. He is like Buckley. Can run fast, and that's about it. Poor skills, no defensive side, waste of space. Prismall would be great for us. He'd walk straight into our midfield and just about be our best. I'd give up any pick after first rounder for him. Say pick 20 something for him? Would really help our midfield. Finds alot of the ball, decent speed, good skills. Feel sorry for him wasting away in the VFL because he has to contend with Ablett, Bartel, Corey, Enright, Chapman, Kelly etc Cats wont let Lonergan go. They rate him very very highly. If we could draft a ruckman, some KPP, then trade in Prismall, I think we will have done well.

Colin Garland? I agree Seriously though, it is a combination of unsized bodies and defensive pressure. We suck with both. Our players never seem to put on the size that other clubs' do, and our defensive pressure this year has been the worst I can remember from a team.