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De Koning is 200cm utility. Named All Aus fullback, but hasn’t really found his best position. Could become a KPF/2nd ruck type we’re lacking perhaps. Will go anywhere from 20-50. There’s not many talls in this draft so not many other options.

That would be ideal. Then use pick 25 on a tall of some sort such as De Konig.

Serong played inside midfielder all season though. He played forward when he was younger, but now is an inside midfielder, so I'm not sure he fits that need. He's definitely a talented player though, so wouldn't be unhappy to have him in red and blue. Weightman was rated between 20-25 during the year, but has risen recently as a bolter. I was keen on him a few months back and posted about him in the threads about other potnetial small forwards for future such as Kobe Farmer, Ksiah Picket etc. We're apparently keen on him, so pick 8/9 might be where he bolts to. He's a good small forward. Has pace, has a good leap, hits the scoreboard, provides pressure. He'd walk into our team round 1 IMO. I'd be very happy to have him in red and blue!

They’re not wrong ?

I love the idea of trading into the first round of this year draft. next years draft is compromised. But why are giving up 26 and 50 as well? Seems lopsided. Surely we don’t give it all up for 8.

Anyone but Oliver. I really rate Caldwells potential as either an inside mid or outside mid. He’s well rounded and could be versatile if needed. I’d be pouring games into him and adding him to the midfield rotation, maybe stints in the wing and stints on ball. I think Viney is the one who needs to add more strings to his bow, potentially rotate up forward. Oliver has already started playing stints up forward, though was more effective there in 2018 when getting cleaner delivery. Brayshaw can play wing, half back or half forward. Harmes can tag or play forward and use his marking skills and leap. Viney is the one who needs to find another position he can play that’s not around the ball. Defensive forward is probably the most likely.

Yes but only picks, so if a player is potentially going to be involved then the trade needs to get done by Wednesday. I’m still hoping for 6+Caldwell personally!

I think we'll need to add later picks/swap this years later picks for next years to give them the points they need to match the Green bid. It won't be as simple as 3 for 6+whatever. It'll need to be more like 3+3rd round pick+4th round pick for 6+teen pick/player.

Nietschke did his knee and missed the season, so no idea about how he'll progress yet. I didn't mind Sparrow at underage level, but I was disappointed with his first year at both levels. I didn't expect anything at AFL level, but I expected him to show good form or bursts of his key traits at VFL level and was left wanting. He didn't show any burst of pace, his skills were sloppy, his agility seemed average and he struggled to read the play. Jordan looked good towards the end of the year playing more inside midfield in the VFL. Down back as a half back flanker, his kicking was decent but he often struggled to read the play and would get caught in no mans land guarding space while his opponent got off the chain. He was moved on ball later in the season and definitely showed he reads the play better there as someone who can just hunt the ball instinctively without having to think about setups. I believe he may become a decent player for us as he matures over the next few years. His kicking skills and ball finding ability through the middle seemed good to me at VFL level.

Pass.

See above older posts. He’s part of Fremantle NGA, already trains with them, and Wiz now works for Freo as an ambassador. His family is settled in WA. His mum doesn’t want to move. If he’s good enough to make an AFL list, then he’s going to Freo as one of their elected NGA players. This thread should probably be closed now.

Re: Daniher - I think if Essendon don’t trade him, he’ll claim mental health issues and not play for them in 2020. Then his value drops and they’re forced to trade him next offseason. Similar to what happened with Mccarthey from GWS. I expect this to become a regular thing in the coming years. Player nominates a club and if the trade request isn’t honored they claim mental health issues and don’t play for the club they’re contracted to.

If he’s a delisted free agent, can we sign him to our rookie list? He’d be perfect rookie list material to prove himself and earn his way back.

The problem with trading picks during the draft is you can only trade for picks, not players. So we can't ask for pick 6 + a player, only a combination of picks. I'd rather we get the deal done before the draft. Push GWS into 6 + Caldwell or Hately.

Welcome to the club Ed! He's EXACTLY what we need. I've been a fan for a few years, and he is one of the best wingmen in the AFL. Statistically, he is virtually identical to Brad Hill, actually edges him slightly, and we got him for a sliver of the cost AND he's only 23. He could be one of our best trade ins we've had in a long long time.

He’s basically Dylan Shiel with a better kick. I rate him massively and would gladly give up a top 10 pick for him. We should be pushing to get him. Potentially better than any we have bar Oliver IMO

We should push to trade our pick 3 for their pick 6 and Caldwell. If we pulled that off, we’d be trading in a future gun midfielder who can play both inside and outside (plays best outside) and draft another elite talent with pick 6 such as Ash, Flanders, Serong etc. Make it happen Dees!

I agree we should just take it to the draft. However, if there’s some trades requiring first rounders that we haven’t heard about such as Laird or Papley, then splitting it is a necessity. Interesting to see how this plays out!

Either way, it seems they’re splitting with Adelaide and not us, so we’ll have to look elsewhere to split our pick. What other options are there for us? Geelong? Essendon if they trade Daniher?

GWS reportedly deep in talks with Adelaide for pick 4. Likely trade of 14, second round pick and future first for Adelaides pick 4. We'll have to look elsewhere if we want to split pick 3.

Believe GWS would let him go for a pick around 30, which was repeated on trade radio this afternoon. Obviously not rated too highly if they’re happy to let a 20 year old pick 11 who’s had no real injury problems go for a pick around 30.

And I believe the answer would be that all his fellow first round draftee teammates have higher ceilings and are already performing better. Hateley, Caldwell and Langdon all performed better In the NEAFL despite being younger and far less developed physically, and they all played AFL this year. They’ll add Green as another first round midfielder this draft. That puts him at least 5th down the midfield depth pecking order, and that’s just first round mids in the past two drafts. He’s a ways off. I’d be disappointed if we chased him hard or gave up much for him. Looks a bust at this stage.

Based on his 6 AFL games and his NEAFL reports and stats. He’s averaging 19 disposals and 0.6 goals in NEAFL playing midfield and half forward. He’s rarely in the best either at NEAFL level. He handballs more than he kicks, and from watching him it’s because he’s not able to make space and just transfers the pressure to his teammates. At underage level his size meant he could push off opponents and run off stoppages. At NEAFL and AFL level his size isn’t a weapon and he’s got no other tricks. His other first round team mates such as Hately, Langdon and Caldwell are all performing much better at both NEAFL level and AFL level when playing. He’s a whipping boy on GWS forums. He’s basically the worst of their midfield depth and the worst of their first rounders. Both the eye test and numbers verify this.

Been discussed a few times in pick split thread and a few other threads the past month or so. My opinion was I wouldn’t bother. He doesn’t fill any needs for us and hasn’t been able to establish himself in any position. His best work is as an inside midfielder or a marking half forward. Doesn’t have great pace. Doesn’t have great skills. Not great offensively. Not great defensively. Statistically is ranked poor by AFL statistical averages. Can’t nail down a position yet. His best attribute is he’s larger than average for an onballer, but if you’re no good then that doesn’t matter. On what we’ve seen from him the last few years, he looks like a bust for a first round draftee. I wouldn’t trade anything more than aN early third rounder for him. Definitely wouldn’t include him in a pick split. He’ll have a career similar to Ellis-Yolmen IMO. Very similar player, but not as many issues with injury. Avoid unless cheap.

We’ve shown we’re happy to bid on academy players if they’re talented enough. We bid on both Heeney and Mills. Hopefully the threat of that is a push for GWS to trade up and split our pick.