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Actually... in context ... new cba and all that... $1M a year ..hmmmmmmmm

Have absolutely no qualms about that. Opportunities gone begging. He did have mates.... But... gee whizz

I know we'll possibly not agree on how the starting selection may have been... but Max was incredulously poorly managed. Thats on you know who.....

Early hols ??

Probably takes the combined output of 50 journos to get an ounce of sense though...

Yep... good for geese.......

Id give Maxxy a little slack Jaded...he was mercilessly held, scragged, chopped all game for sfa recognition by the maggots. It was deplorable.

In one respect a 'problem" with the forward line stocks is even with the likes of Milky (retained ) Roo and Petty ( if he is indeed to live forward permanently ) is we're ...imho...still one decent sized KPF short. Whereby we had the likes of Big Benny and Tommy alas I would think those halcyon days are passed. Had we a more mature and experienced Forward I doubt that Roo would have been chucked in the deep end as he was. Other than Fritta we dont have too many who live and breathe forward craft. Smith isnt too bad.. but not what I think we're looking at as being the KEY forward. Petty might get there...but he's still learning imo. It is someone like Hogan (oh the irony ) that we need... Not the Lynchs or the like...just a good solid meat and 3 veg realiable PROPER forward.. Will only likely need for 3-4 years. We dont need a silver bullet...just add to the silver already on hand

Good journalism should lead the way. It shouldn't be dictated to. It shouldn't look like a cheap one size fits all suit. That they are reactive shows they should all give away the quill.

Well... it's a start. Possibly a poor analogy but someone with addiction first has to admit it, own it and then can move forward and upward from that base. All im hearing is blah blah blah bla blahhhhh. At least in "trotting" it out he's verbalising to a public audience. That would be a catalyst for change. Haven't heard him say... "Im the Coach of Melbourne and its my responsibility to oversee the change needed so we dont repeat these unsatisfactory and disappointing results , squandering our talent and opportunity " I dont hear him say ANYTHING near it.

Even worse...of a fashion. We had the game effectively won. Not sure tbh how...as some seemed worse for wear and just hanging on but in the context of that game and with little time left we should have retained the outcome. Our much vaulted End of Game Shut-down was nowhere to be seen. Where was the discipline...where were all the learnings. Why weren't 2 extra behind the ball to completely shut it down..where were the runners ?? Like deer in the headlights.. we got whacked. That's where the vitriol of the media stems from.

Lamentably....yes.. All the locusts swarm. Tbh... not without some merit. We are our own worst enemy. We often dont simply get beaten.. WE lose. Emphasis on the WE. I.e.. It was up to us...and we've stuffed up...and not just once. There's a perceivable trend. So the answer to all that kicking...is to get up and do something about it. I can only suggest something somewhat different....lest we end up right back on the floor.. The word criticism by definition comes from critique. We of course deserve to be critiqued. Now it may well be some have agendas and/or narratives to push but the equally simple ( as such ) solution so as to avoid the kicking. Dont lose the games you've won. It might just help.....

Sorry.. further to this he DEFINITELY answerable to US. The club effectively runs like any stakeholdered company. You have the investors. i.e Member. We invest not just money but so much more. We are literally invested as club fans/members. Like a company it has its board and management. All are tasked , all are accountable to.....its shareholders. The MFC is accountable to US. Thats how it works. They F up...theyre out.

Possibly the most logical thought regarding him. He has his moments...has his fades ( not alone ) Definitely among the elite thinkers with the ball. His vision is exemplary. Doesn't always get the desired result. He might find selection getting even more crowded at Melb. So he might well pull the trigger.

You know what... maybe own it. Maybe some humble mea culpa. He's the bloody head coach... Maybe " we stuffed up... we need to do much better ... " Maybe ... "an opportunity lost etc" He needs to understand its on HIM HE guides the ship... onto the rocks again...and again. 21 is history. He's letting things slip. He totally ballsed up the Grundy fiasco and even when the opportunity to do something a bit maverick presented.. he squibbed. He's an employee...he's accountable... to US !!

Go well and good luck Brodie. I personally think you did your level best in the circumstances. I also believe the club totally stuffed this up from day one...and right through. Not Melbourne's finest hour(s). This could have played out much better. Certainly shows which camp has no capacity for lateral thinking. We're not that clever at times...especially when we think we are.

We stuffed up

All very good... And all too late. If you dont think he's not answerable to 70k odd disenchanted ... well...

A good 3 to 4 years probably. Ideal.

Grundy wasn't si much a mistake...though i can only agree an argument can be made ( a la rpfc ) that we never should have entertained it...better other options/deals. But , imo, where we truly [censored] up was not reappraising where we were and the talent on offer and rethinking how to use. Exhibit A .. the last game .. We needto be far more astute and inventive.

They were argy bargy from the get go. We dont have nearly enough mongrel . We get dudded every single time. No prizes for being nice

exactly

as would I....but is it a peculair scenarion then.... Dew was set to get the top job until nobbled by Colless...

I think there was a period of greater delegation but not so much into the finals and /pr esp this year I guessing.. Not saying the OOze isnt professional but he's human.... Might not have been 100% focused on us...what is...is.

As such good. Doesn't guarantee him anything. Will still have to earn spot. Just means he's one of a pool to draw upon. I read it as nothing more than that tbh.