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Hope that wasn't expensive...otherwise talk about burning money. You have to wonder what really was the brief. Results to date... ??? I suppose we have to wait till season's end. Apparently the results this year on top of recent which spell out T.. R ..E.. N.. D just aren't convincing enough. I hope we don't look back in Spike Milliganesque manner... if you know the Tombstone quote ... you'll understand.

There's a very easy way to fix that 😉

Even easier to do nothing. Why don't we do a lot of things that aren't particularly hard ? Why do other teams manage these things ? You're probably quite correct... it's not just the coach. He is part of it though. As to " it's coming along " ... sorry what league are you watching Red ? We're almost competitive for 1 or 2 quarters.. then the opposition adjusts. But ... easier to do nothing and wait.... wait... wait.. Eventually We're totally dead in the water.... if only we'd done something sooner. Let's waste another year... Well, we'll see at end of 26. Hope I'm wrong.

Red... i do respect your views, your passion and i give a wink to your background. I know you're a reasoned person a dyed in the wool Dee. I'd have no intention of not honouring his contract. I'd simply pay him off in a negotiated settlement. Thats honourable is it not. I'd dispute its a waste of money as I rate TIME ahead of coin. The usable time we have with players is far more constrained than $$ Thats my opinion granted. I'd rather 'waste' money than talent. Culture is an interesting direction. I see us currently as impotent. The culture is that of accepting mediocrity as the norm. What exactly is the MFC when it fronts TWO CEOs to a Meeting. Seriously if that's not a joke then nothing is. Thats amateur hour whether you like it or not. I could give a rats whether players like him, want him or otherwise. His job is the Senior Coach. That's akin to a parent. Not their best bud !! All have a 'role' at a club. It's not supposed to be a 'good times social' as it ought to be a professional sports outfit who ALL adhere to a high echelon of standards ( and outputs ) Deals work both ways and contracts are such deals. When you fail to live up to what's required you are going to be replaced. Change in and of itself is not sufficient. Changing one stuffed tyre for another doesn't really accomplish much other than allowing you to say,well, 'i changed the tyre' !! Not all agree and I'm ok with that, but the results on the field ultimately reflect those in charge and most poignantly the one in charge of the others in charge ( so to speak ) If you're missing goals then someone needs to address techniques , skills and mindsets. All roads lead back to the HC .. can be no one else Game Style... that's the Coach. Abilities to carry out game plans .... initially assistants but what exactly is the HC doing if not overseeing them ? Selection. No one is EVER going to convince me the HC doesn't have the last word. Everyone else provides input... not decision. There is substance to the idea that better help might benefit. I think it's way past this. The deckchairs have been mucked around with considerably and a number of issues have presented. We don't have the best assistants and Goodwin is very slow to change. Worse still seems ineffective in getting change to work. This brings me back to Time. We don't have infinite time. We need to do things not only better than WE do currently but better than our competitors. In the vernacular were just playing catch-up-footy. ... but we're not. We're falling further and further behind. If we are to talk of honouring things. How about we honour the pact with those who barrack and support the MFC ? How about we do the very level best for them/us. Simon is but a cog in a machine. That cog is worn and slipping. You're not doing any favours to the ones who are owed the greatest by not fixing the problem. Sometimes problems cost money. Not a waste if you can get the machine working properly again I would think. Go Dees

Great odds for line bets ;)

Not even a box of bandaids. The real question that comes to my mind is not so much why they were wearing then... but how !! They're BANNED !! Why were they even available?? AFL couldn't give a 💩

I understand him. I just have no faith in him. He's the 2025 reinvention of the Peter Principle.. The Simon Syndrome It's a bit like a burnt clutch... you can rev all you like but you're not going anywhere !!

Spargypants relieving Max..

Certainly can't blame Woey.. he's entitled to seek better pastures. As to Judd.. his life. All players owe to self to get the best out of careers. Both Sandgropers... can understand the attractions of home. Thanks for the Intel and heads up R&BF

Both Taj and Judd OOC eos .. Possible both elect to seek trades ??

Hypothetical You're a player in a 'foreign' state playing in a team whose prospects aren't looking too flash. You're asked to play a role you don't particularly find uber satisfying . You're wind of interest from 'home'. You decide after talking with your manager to halt current proceedings til season's end . All hypothetical of course

If players are coming in... someone(s) has to leave. Omelettes and eggs

It was after all how he landed the job in the first place 😉 Birds of feathers . Spots don't change.

Not thinking he was alone. I'm somewhat surprised he wasn't ( surprised ) at being elevated when he was. That he was included to me was more puzzling that when omitted. He hasn't be 100% all year. He's a very reasoned chap . His outlook is generally grounded. Thats his shtick. Morris like a lot of other feral wannabe journos is just foraging in the bin ( his natural habitat ) All clubs keep tabs on players. Bit like "tomorrow the sun will come up and startle some" What might hold some curry in a sort of juxtapositional manner is Lever may have been a little surprised, but in a manner as I'm sure half of what Goodwin does may seem perplexing to many. Players no different in that regard.

No DS9 they are your metrics. You can follow and understand in any shape or form that floats your boat. You don't however get to unequivocally foist your ideology on anyone else. We all go about this in a manner that works for the individual. That as such is life in general. Supporting a team need not be anything different. I don't ask others to be more critical. Doesn't worry me if some think theirs is a better outlook. We're individuals .... Jacko got that right Go Dees ( just better 😉 )

Can anyone elaborate ? ( what's behind the wall please )

Wasn't playing finals the line in the sand ? And it wasn't us per se who drew that line. Talks the talk, trips over his own feet.

Counterpoint 4/5 losses and we appear like a team whose time's up.

I think many are confusing or conflating two issues. Will Goody coach next year ?? Should Goody coach next year ?? Yes he will No he shouldn't Thats the actual point. And if he is .. I'll find a great deal of pleasure in other interests and pastimes. Much time saved not worrying about Dland. Not a fan of season re-runs. The happy clappers may rejoice... The off season might prove curious. Wish my knees were up to skiing.

So why read any of it ?? 🤔

It hasn't. The equation: He's contracted through 26 Currently no one in position to actually do a thing about it. Current President won't. The incoming CEO has backed Goody for 26 ( apparently ) . Even if Smith was of a mind... be too late . So I don't see what machination can occur that will oust him ( just yet) Goody survives become were a useless bloody joke of a club. What an indictment.

Take care. Hope your lad's situation betters.

Don't have Sat lotto #s there Old.. Your crystal ball gazing is likely spot on. Bad enough we endure the current but knowing it's going to perpetuate... just b.s.

Reality check. This forum is for all supporters to discuss Melbourne. The good the bad. I'm fully aware you see things in way different to me, and others. There are those more akin to your ways. All in all that's a good thing. Promotes healthy debate and amicable banter. It would prefer we were in more successful times. I really do. Much nicer to wax lyrical about success than it is to discuss our shortcomings. You derisively vomit as to the idea of not liking losing. Are we supposed to like it ...and just say nothing ? Seriously I'm interested. Many here, and indeed out in the real world are fed up with losing, the mediocrity and lame duck oversight and management. Ghosty... it's very easy to not be disappointed by such talk. Don't read it. Me ...I get disappointed by reading about soccer balls. But I still enjoy yours and other's reports. Go Dees