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And when dealing with idiots you need to provide opportunity to allow them to imolate. Gleeson needs to be made an example of. He discards rules at whim. They need to be retrieved and slap his face with them. He proffers no respect....give none. A decent wig would turn him inside out and skewer him on upon his own ego.

For me the fundamental reason for appealling this stupid and ridiculous ban is we have been denied a full and just hearing. The likes of Gleeson want to circumvent the rules to suit. It's that these very rules are not adhered to in my mind constitutes an automatic escalation. The corrupt manner, and it's nothing other, needs to be tested. Allows others to trample on.you.... well more fool you. They'll keep doing it. There's a reason the likes of Collingwood get treated differently . They dont take [censored]. I dont take [censored].. Apparently its on the MFC shopping list Ppl bemoan opposition coaches that complain. Wish ours did. Say nothing ...get nothing.. short of a condescending pat on the head from the AFL. Hunter did nothing wrong and is being punished..... twice.

Where ??? ..... 🤔🙄

But that's just the point.. Carl/Coll/Geel will get off... status normal. What is this free for all you speak of? If I was Lachie i might be wondering... so youll go to bat for HIM ?.. I did nothing wrong. 10K is beer change You condemn the AFL by challenging them. They cant control what is said. P.s.. get better Beagles Dees ;) Current bloke a loser big time . Do what the fair dinkum clubs do...get suitsvand wigs that run circles round Gleebag etc. We take knives to gunfights ffs

Quite frankly im disillusioned by the club.. seemingly wanting justice and fairness and then bottling. Don't give me ...oh they went into bat for JVR... so they bloody should. They ought to as a default.. That's the point.. it's like a Solicitor exclaiming "objection" ...it's just done as a matter of course ( given sufficient basis to object of course ) Here there plainly is... Carlton, Collingwood etc.. it's their default position. The league knows it.The league thinks twice with them They know we're a lot softer. I'd go to war against these fools. You dont get change without risk. Push back... push back... call them out. Have words to THEM.. suggest they either get fair dinkum or WE'LL control the narrative. Well push our barrow through the 4th Estate... We'll stink it up bad. You dare to crucify us... we'll call you out Fair's fair at the same time.. a player actually transgresses... we'll cop it sweet. You trump up b.s and NOT hand out the same infringement equally to others then well ask the court of public opinion. People like an Underdog.... most cant stand the rubbish that the AFL does...it's egos...its fiddling with the game...its B.S. for the boys club I wouldn't fear Gil.. Dill or any of that lot... id make them fear us. Theyre custodians, not owners of the game. The best defence is an attack. Tired of these bullies Probably coming across as a rant.. We seem as a club to be often unfairly targetted. If i didn't know better ( and i dont ...lol ) id almost believe there are those in this industry who resent the MFC. Some seem seriously carry a burning fire to smite us at every opportunity. You have two choices.... accept it.. or not. In NOT you have to be consistent lest you are found out Strength of character is not doing something once...it's doing it everytime you're put back into that position. Ive never been convinced we have much backbone as a club... I'm still unconvinced. And for that matter the team plays footy the same way.. go hard when its easy..go missing when it isnt. Same at club level. That is the definition of club culture. Ours needs to change. We're being pushed aside...again.

If he had tried as you suggest in all likelihood he WOULD have caused injury. He would not had slowed/stopped.. not turned nor braced but risky greater injury to both himself and the other nong. Hunter did the right thing. The AFL havent

You mean AFL fed and accredited hacks ?

Youre missing the point. And im not entirely sure what this Prez has actually done !! Please understand. 2 separate issues.

Youre trying to apply reason and logic The AFL is not about reason and logic. Its about Power, Control and $$$

Time to email the prez. We dont accept this [censored] Not prepared to back your players in fair play ? Not prepared to back YOU !!

Bear....or take ?

This isnt about footy....not about rules.. It's about ONE thing... AFL EGO. Well [censored] them. It's not their game...its ours

Yep.. 100%

Who hires this bloke..sack him/her/it

Push back MFC.. push hard

Not challenging ??

Youre on the money I suspect. After that wonderful "dance" i had opportunity to dine with a number of the lads... Spoke at some length with Jake Lever. (Interesting fella btw ) I asked him point blank... " so... have a flag... now ?. How will the team react this year ( last year) Hang the hat and coat up... job's done ?? He was adamant ( quite civilly) that it was anything but.. not satisfied til they hold the cup up at the G....and keep going. Plainly someone's writing cheques that aren't being cashed. We've been way off the boil. .. as you suggest

This Gleeson is a bit of buffoon surely. Ignoring the rules....making it up on the fly. Passed the bar... certainly not the Mitre i suspect.....

Bingo

In the great recent history when have you seen the club so quick and keen to appeal...and in Roos case appeal again ? " Trigger happy" was somewhat tongue in cheek ;) but by comparison to our previous (in the main ) dour 'look the other way' approach it seemed apt.

Me too... exact thoughts.

Im not sure you can assume that. Historically we've never been as trigger happy as it were to rebuke the MROs cavalier hypocrisy. That strikes me more a change in mood rather than happenstance. Just me perhaps.

Are the bets voided though.... dont you just lose ?

Sort of reminds e of some ridiculous suburban/urban speed limits. Whilst supposedly about reducing risk of injury/death by lowering impact speed allit seems to do in many areasis remove the obligation for own safety as ppl just walk out into/onto streets expecting....no demanding cars evade/avoid them. Its this same sense of arrogant entitlement whereby a player absolves himself of any responsibility of actions and transfers it all to another. Can we just remove all the warning labels........

Nail on head. Max is the Captain. Captains lead....they dont shirk. Others will look to that lead to take 'instruction' I dont really want to enter into Max bashing as thats certainly not my intent. Max is a very good player. I just cant help but feel hes lowering his guard and lowering the flag somwhat at the same time How do walk tall on a field when your leader cops serious attention and seemingly does nothing. What is the message supposed to be ? Footy isnt a Softly Softly game. It's very hands on.. and gladiatorial. Not in a Neanderthal Rugby like manner but its hard body on hard body often. It requires a great deal of commitment. Commitment is a mental state of mind. Its something you can direct and control. Good teams need to apply that commitment for as much of those 4 qtrs as can. Ideally 100% o the game. Thats not a realistic result as its human to ebb and flow a bit. Nonetheless it must be the default intent.. A lot of psychiatry is employed in modern day sport. The reason is because the mind drives the body.. work away at your opponents psyche, get them to second think,to doubt , to put them off their game and half ( or more ) of the battle is won. Superior coaching will target any and all weaknesses, real or imagined in the opponent. Plan will be made to understand the weaknesses of others,the chinks in their armour and home in on them. Im sorry Max..theres a good reason oppositions target you... 1.. you let them. 2 by you doing little it sends a message to the others.... 3 They get you ...and its cutting the head off a snake. That the reactions to the Max targetting seemingly are none, that it goes unremonstrated must be by instruction. If it is it's the wrong one. Its all well and good to play ...turn the cheek and get on with it but thats not working anymore. We could rely on our game to carry us through but that game hs been worked out, countered and bettered ...by better coaches. We are getting hounded, we are getting pressured, we're getting worked over. And when an opponent does that we are a very ineffective team. Some opponents only manage it for 1 or 2 qtrs... manage it or 3...you beat us... The idea o weathering the storm doesn't work any more. And that hounding/ unsettling / niggle is about showing whos top dog on the day. Who better to target than the Captain . He doesn't do much about it... the team does sfa. Oppositions do this by instruction. Its not some random occurrence. Everything you need to know about Melbourne is summed up by how we deal with that. Doesn't make for happy reading does it.