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Be a shame eh........

I understand that view. That is unlikely. The requirements are 2 ovals ..An enclosed training space.. General training areas/equipment. Sports Medical and Admin. That requires a bit of space. To my knowledge nothing able to incorporate all of that as OUR facility exists in term if space near ...even remotely the G. I think the club has taken the bigger holistic approach. Again this about sports training/admin.. not us. Fine by me. More than enough options abound for a beer or a wine. You would have to think they would incorporate a retail facity and perhaps a cafe/bistro open to all...i mean why not.. but it needn't be big. I think not only can Caulfield tick all those boxes bu there may be other positives we haven't even considered. This will be modelled on world class best practice... not archaic footy niceties.

I sense some are confusing 'central' with accessible.. Further ...and again.... central to what and/or whom ? Central in any Melbourne context is actually somewhat misleading. The CBD was never Central...but was the centre of Commerce. Melbourne's biggest shopping area ? Nowhere near FB/PM Are we just the MCG footy team... or the MELBOURNE Football Club

Yes.. the middle...maybe a bit to the left..or such.. Have you any idea of the amount of area there ??

No.. not in my view.. The area will require some recreational facilities and that will definitely suit the locals....ppl who are already there and those that come to live there. They wont be fighting traffic etc... FB/PM is very ordinary travel wise to get to. Limited avenues.. you effectively have to go in and out. It's actually not central.

Everything you suggest will be more than adequately catered to at Caulfield..imho. Access, space , locale. I'm not getting the feeling many truly get the scope of what will be on offer nor the unique opportunity this should present. I think for far too long many just hear the word MELBOURNE and automatically allocate thoughts to the CBD/MCG region. In my view that self restricting...and alienating. Google "Greater Melbourne" .. THAT'S Melbourne... the whole bloody box and dice. We are the ONLY team who by name can assume the 'whole' and this is how we should be looking at it... Anyone from anywhere in Melbourne can identify as being a Melburnian.... and Caulfield is right at the heart. Time to think BIG Picture

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Central to what...and whom ? The whole FB area is a developers sink hole. Any greenfield design will of course need to incorporate public amenity and by such 'some' communal recreational facilities. But it will be minimalist as that's real estate....read $$$ .You're not going to get as much in this locale that you can preside over. FB and indeed PM do have proximity to 'town' but the last i heard ...'town' is on the nose with sqM vacancy very high . Again, I have to suggest a Football Club Training Centre and Admin Facility is nothing about you or me and ONLY about what it does for the club, not the supporters. Access to FB/PM is relatively limited. A development at Caulfield does not take away amenity from anyone, it creates it. Your suggestions at FB and PM either restrict public amenity or take from it. Im pretty confident if you were to ask the club..i.e the staff and players which they would prefer as a WORKPLACE .... Caulfield would win by its own home straight.

Thankyou... brilliant stuff.. Rivers 😳😳😳 beast mode Somethings bode well... But hey ..it's Dec Cheers All 🎄🎅🥂

Oh dear.....fellow Dlanders , I can't help that some have this new Training Ground all wrong. Is it.. A) about club facilities, player development, bringing everything home ( well to A home ) i.e it's a Football/Admin kinda thing. Or B) about the supporter..about deigning to postcode demographics ...about a 'choice' bar to socialise... Here's the mail....it's A ...all about A ... B...yeah nahhh.. not even a thing ..remotely. This IS all about Training...and i dont mean...' next train arriving on platform 2 is... ' Wake up folks...its about THEM... not you.. You dont play...you dont do the books... But hey....I'm sure you'd be ok to watch and grab a snag. For comparison look at what Premier League clubs do... what NFL clubs do... etc etc... Its about player facilities.

Not sure they could organise the proverbial p*** up Daisy let alone clever stuff. They still struggle with inner sanctum games it seems. Caulfield should have been signed and sealed by now imho if it were happening. Another committee getting sfa done.

Ooooohhhhh gooooodyyy... he can kick !!! Handy.. We'll see.

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Cant kickem ...might organise the front game a tad better. His approach is flawed. He found his moment in the sun.... the sun has moved on... us....not so much. Much work to be done. Oh... good luck Bun...thanks for visiting. Cheers.

It no longer matters. Lots that might.. But.... We all know little is as it seems. An EGO driven industy.....meh

FB will improve.. but most an improvement only relevant to those living there. If you look at some of the relatively nearby higher density developments in PM..and if you've ever had to access that area...it's rubbish Congested.. narrower streets etc. Any new developments will NOT be car friendly ( as that is THE way now . I can see a theoretical attraction...but it wouldn't pan out. Those lovely Architectural Presentations are no more than Cartoons really.. utopian pipedreams as opposed dreary reality. As its pretty safe to assume hardly an Melbourne player does , or would be living there then somewhere more accessible and attractive might better serve. It's an irrelevance where any supporters live. It is about what( and where ) best serves the MFC. I could see FB sorta flourishing for its new population. It will suit some. Not anyone who appreciates a modicum of space though. Might be a while too.

The only people who out manoeuvred us were .....ourselves 😉 All our own doing and ineptness.

It's not winning the tap...it's winning the clearance.. can we as a club please get around this concept....

No it's not...or arguably yes...it's a deal so it get done like any other deal according to values/currency/argy bargy.. But is this THAT complicated....NO.... Doing up shoes laces for Purple...is complicated

Exactly...Grundy is all but a necessity....Adams a nicety. If they could take only one, and I'm not for an instant sugesting they'll only get one, but if they had to choose it would be Grundy every day of the week.

Well done..lol.. yeah. The 'cue' wasnt that obvious...unless you knew what to look for....and when you did it was easy peasy. Someone mentioned using deposits off the coke bottles....yeah...whole other story there lol... Looking back I was quite the ratbag delinquent.

WE aren't paying 700k.. that's the point here. What he's getting and what we pay are two very different things. What does Sydney really need MORE ..an Adams...or a RUCK.. not just a ruck...but a capable one. I'd play hardball with this bunch. Never done us a favour unlike some other clubs. Why aid the enemy...[censored] them !!! Edit.. WE need to get suitable value to suit US ...not facilitate blody Sydney and Collingwood ffs

The Dees will pay nothing of Grundy's salary going forward....thats all down to Collingwood and his new club. MFC just playing for a better pick.thsn Sydney's opening gambit... that part is just part of the trade week game.

Also, ironically it would suggest hail marys are still to be our forward "craft". Let's hope not ...

The journey continues Harmesy. Good luck for the future. No one will ever take away your Premiership and we will always be thankful for your pivotal part in it. Always a demon. Go well .