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Well I'll make a promise Macca. It will bring joy to many i have no doubt. If Goodwin is coaching next year . I.e if he isn't sacked at this seasons end or there about, I will refrain from even a single post til the end of H/a '26. There will be no interest or care on my part . It will be a similar malaise. It will be a waste of a year and I've better things to see and do than watch 24/25 repeat.

Doing both wouldn’t hurt.

Mate.. stop this 2.7 malarkey.. ffs it was only 2.5 yesterday lol. You're pulling numbers out your proverbial

There's reality in and amongst that without doubt. Just suppose .. we beat Blues and Weagles ( maybe as we are talking Melbourne...and both Eagles and Carlton are just as capable of spanking a team who think they've already got the chokkies ) .. but let's say. That's 7 wins... hell let's throw in another for the sake of discussion. 8 wins. 3 LESS than 24. The trajectory is indisputable. Straight sets, straight sets, fail, dismal fail...... The drums will be deafening...

Don't be so sure We aren't winning much more for the year. The Elephants in the room will be loud.

Any news... Or been "scratched"

I'd agree... and will be further wasted if we don't change path.. just my opinion.... of course

Bravo.... It strikes me as a classic case of interim/caretakers not wanting to stir or muddy waters lest they end up part of washup themselves. Hate to say this but we lack the backbone that a successful org needs. We're just too NICE a mob. It does run like a boys club, not an accountable business. Do these people really strive for success or is it more about cozy cloisters ? A great place to hobnob and network ? There was a sense of hunger before 21.. none now... Carry on chaps... pass the cheese and Shiraz

Again... and not just to annoy Binman this is why stats are rubbish , misleading and erroneous. We're supposedly this that and the other and all of it is spurious as a lot of what we do is ineffectual. Ffs it's what you do with the bloody ball. There are umpteen nuances exits with a ball on any given play. Most are sliding door moments... a split second this way or that equates to two very ( at least 2 ) different outcomes. But stats always homogenise. It's not just a matter of attempting to quantify/qualify what we're doing at the time but you have to temper/ adjust what the circumstances are/were in terms of any opponents actions. The variables are exponential really. Strangely , to my mind, your ability to interpret much of this is actually quite good by eye. You get a reasonable appreciation of ' that was easy/hard/ lucky/ brilliant' etc How many times do we sit watching a game frustrated when we see the moves required but the players take a soft or worse stupid course. But the stats rack up . I still think we are very capable as observers of deducing the efficiency of play . Speed isn't everything. Effect is. Tempo is the most misunderstood quality in play in my judgement. Clever players micro adjust ; it's not just bang whack, slap the ball. If you play like that you'll be hammered by more skilled teams. Sound familar

One could argue this too is a product of his making ?? At least he's complicit. Bit like a parent trying to be a friend

What if they are being instructed to do something that is fundamentally flawed ?? Because that's the first thing that comes to my thinking. I've for a long time said our forward problems are an incurrence of design. A lot of how we play is for mine very counter intuitive. So I naturally extend my suspicion to think a lot of what we do is by instruction , albeit executed poorly but maybe that's a product of poor oversight ? We play "ODD" footy imho

Arrrkkk..... Simon has to go.... aaarrrkkkk... Simon Macca. I've seriously never known football to be that hard of a game ( deciphering modern day umpiring aside ) . I can't believe professional players can't execute team plays after a full preseason. Mind boggling really. They're not learning another language, not having to learn Systems Engineering.... not Rocket Surgery eh. It's football, something they've done invariably since they could kick a ball at school. Only so many variations and plays !! My question is what the actual !@$# are they being told to do ?? It ain't working

If i may again. Those leaving in droves aren't likely to ping the players. They'll be asking why were they playing that game in that manner ? Ot asking who YOU blame... just thinking about how others might. The 1st qtr was deplorable. Not the first time caught napping or out gamed. One team certainly better set up than the other at the start.

I'm not thinking the players are the go-to re blame in the minds of those exiting membership. I just don't. This is often more a message aimed at the Club itself...and those charged with running it, on and off the field. Message would read " you're stinking it up, you're failing ... better do something about it" I don't think the players are coached well nor instructed/empowered with a sound game plan. End of the day it's the coaches ( one especially ) whose job it is to get them firing and playing the very best footy they can. That's the job.... Also incumbent upon the club to ensure that that position is best filled. If not, rectify. As to how they play, well, I do tend to agree. Not at their abilities.

I really would have thought the first half of this year was more than enough . It's a failure. Why do people not want to call it as it IS !! Or do we continue to stuff around another 2-3 years to find ourselves still failing ?? Possibly right up until now Goody and Co have been able to pick who they wanted, play them whereas they wanted and instructed them as to how. They've had all bloody off season . The acid test has come and gone

And why isn't that ? Seriously . I was always taught/ coached/mentored...even YELLED at to lead, to find space, create a target , break off my defender ( even when they seemed obsessed with wearing me like some piece of clothing ) .. that was my job as a forward. Yes there were times you would be 'frolicking' in among a pack but that was very last choice stuff. Across a number of teams it was always a very similar approach to forward craft. Get off/away from opponent... make space.. ( except the pocket... that was naughty at got you a rollicking ..unless you were decoying .... and just kinda accidentally ended up with ball 🙄🤔🙄😉 ) . You worked as a unit. You had practiced who 'went' who went which way and when. The whole point was to open up their defence and allow a weighted kick to your ( or someone's ) advantage. Pack marking was frowned upon...schoolyard stuff. There were sessions in creating paths, leading/reversing , when to push off ...on and on and on . All about giving yourself the best chances, your team mates the best targets ; essentially playing high % footy. Never was i asked to play the way we ( Dees ) do. Quite frankly it's dumb clumsy footy. So why do we play this way. It's not how most learn it. So someone is telling players to play this way as it's just not natural for forwards to make it hard for themselves let alone the ball deliverers . Other teams don't play like us.. they have a forward delivery system. You can see the good teams . You can see practiced routines. Then there's us. I really don't get it

Thanks Macca. I'm suspecting if you're going to be paying someone a similar coin then that tax mayn't be such an impediment with the soft cap lifting next year. I get your gist however. For the greater good of winning... it's not insurmountable or prohibitive to my thinking.

If we let him go eos.. that's only one year to pay. No one's sacking him before that. ( no one's got those cohunas ;) ) Not sure why we'd be paying anyone's tax. Their problem surely

We pay him out for 26.. that's not 2.5 m. I did the maths

It's also always the head coach who's game plan is the template. Yes you will get better echelon assistants who's inputs might not just enhance his area of responsibility but also drive change of overall game styles/plan but it's the head coach's vision that's implemented. We could probably go better ( even as we are ) if there was a properly sorted and educated forward line. That's down to effectively 2 people and ultimately one. It's the same dumb 💩 week after week. I honestly can't remember a time when intelligent forward craft was ever a priority under Simon's charge. Last time I looked the backline doesn't hit the scoreboard yet we just pig-headedly persist with Neanderthal footy. Does my head in.

How on earth do you arrive at 2.5m ?

Not to diminish the value of the rest of your post but I'd like to zoom in on this aspect. This is my biggest gripe really. Immediately after ( or possibly during ) our GF win opposition brains trusts were dissecting and plotting our downfall. What worked ( and might I suggest...only just ) in 21 faltered and became less problematic for other teams subsequently. I'm not alone in noticing it and commenting upon such as this occurred. But here we are the backend of 25 going nowhere fast. We've had 4 drafts/trading and the better part of 4 seasons to arrive at our current malaise. We need new blood and better ideas together with ppl ( assistants and other FD ) who can actually achieve. The path we're on and current guides aren't taking us to the summit.

Wont happen but I like the idea.