beelzebub

Really need that 🤔 back .. lol Good post 👍

Some of us have been on these boards from this incarnation back through ....well.... back a hell of a long time... I.e a long time,far too long some might mischievously suggest lol. And they might be right. I took a sabatical ( for my own sanity. It may have aided others also 😆😆 ) We come here for various reasons, with our opinions and gripes. We ALL Demon tragic ( save a number of trolls..... we know who you are btw ) We all welcome the different views, experiences and perspectives. Yes it can be hard yakka at times especially when frustrations set in. I think the old sage advice of Nil desperandum carborundum always applies. ( don't let the bastards wear you down ) We all crave success for the club. I'm sure many in the club charged with providing that success think they are the ones to do so. However history can be a rather unbridled and indifferent teacher. Those that don't learn from it are doomed to repeat it. The club needs to look hard and dispassionately at where we sit currently and at what page of history is open. Decisions and choices need to be made, and made sooner rather than later lest the Groundhog visits. Go Dees

My point re Weed was he was deemed as having potential when young ... but even with added years just didn't cut the mustard. Not all players do. Jeffo.. young , been in the system a number of years now and really hasn't taken the next step and possibly never will ( a la Weed ) Jeffo , for mine, and please there's no personal slight intended, this is just football related observations, is in that category of players who are too good really to play VFL but just not there either for AFL. 2nd tier role players can be sort of carried in a well performing team. He is neither in a 2nd tier role and we are far from a well performing team. That's my point in this regard.

There's certainly an argument for giving players a block of games without too much regard for the ladder. He might suddenly click... he might not. I do agree with OD in so much as I just dont see the inkling that he will. Disco has something ....this guy doesn't. But that said chopping and changing ad hoc week out won't get us far. A more deliberate planned rotation might unearth a player .... or not. Not really going to matter much now for 25

A win ( against the tide ) would do wonders. I don't know about you RIF but even in crappy games I like to see snippets of hope. Little signs things might not be too far off. I'm just not seeing many. It's a bit 2 steps forward ( Lindsay and Langford ) and 3 steps back.. Roo, Fritta... and you could pick the 3rd from half a dozen really :( Being competitive for 3 out of 4 qtrs.. what can you say. Was talking this game to b-i-l before . We have to be 4/5 goals up at 3 qtr time... or else. Many are saying Brisbane not as good as made out to be. Exactly the same muttering prior to last week. That went well 😞 You can only play the team that presents to you. Each side requires a slightly different approach. Conversely it seems anyone playing us knows EXACTLY how to beat us. I'm thinking there's a very simple ( Simon) reason for that ....

I do kinda get the argument. I honestly don't think the validity of workloads is as great as being painted. You're just working as hard with lesser results. I will concede there may be more of a mental exhaustion effect as opposed a physical one. And that's not to be quickly dismissed imho. Becomes draining chasing your tail. I'm inclined personally to favour Occam's Razor.. and simply the inability to run out games is predominantly and simply fitness. Happy to be 'corrected' could it be shown otherwise.

A most salient observation That was then, this is now. Now.... not so good

Re age... Weed says hello . Point ..... age may not be the reason, talent ceiling might . Agree...it's currently at "might" He seems to have gone backwards... that said there's quite a few caught in a rip going the wrong way.

I just don't how they're mutually dependent. Playing out a game is simply fitness.

Had just messaged a friend with: "Yes... would we be maverick we'd call Melbourne ( as is ) .. call it a day , and make wholesale changes . Both FD ..and list. There would be those that would scream ' you can't do that' ...all's the while providing no real evidence of why not. Not much precedent but you could. Enter 26 as a totally rebooted, reinvigorated, repurposed and redesigned team. I'd do it in a blink" Essentially mirrors your thinking. I'm not equivocating, we need to prune the rose bush as you do prune a rose bush. Only then can it grow and bloom. If we just stuff around with bandaids nothing will change much. The window closed end of 23. The man who in my estimation truly won us the flag should have been given the keys end of 23. He wasn't, he's gone. Melbourne needs to reinvent itself. Do the same [censored].... get the same result.

That's a fair question. I can only suggest we look for someone with a different outlook on a "game" and who has the ability to deliver.

I would dare say any team is gettable if only we were to play footy properly. That is do many of the basics, properly. Handball to advantage. Kick to advantage ( properly weighted and directed ) , play purposefully and timely, none of this kick around til the opposition can man up stuff. Be confident and have players running to ne a target, not bombing in blind hope. (p.s. kicking to a pack/contest should always be option Z ) Add to this the incredibly far fetched ideal of forwards knowing where to be and what to do and I know ,possibly a bridge too far, kick a [censored] goal. Yes, any team is gettable. Brisbane is gettable. But it won't be us..... get it 😉

For those that still resist the notion that a change of coach can reap major change..... My lord, I enter into evidence Exhibit A 'Gold Coast Suns'

Tbh .. the only part I think would/should have been different is Kozzies goal. We weren't winning that game.

We've definitely some talent( and some emerging ) But a bit like using Veuve in a Mimosa

Aged well..... just sayin' Do you at least accept the derision is somewhat justified ? Just askin'

The stats that matter. 2024 14th 11wins 44 %98.5 2025 15th 3 wins 12 % 79.4 Anyway you can spin that we're still rubbish, still going backwards. All you happy clappers are delusional

Don't we still understand it's about the game...not the players as such. We have many a good player... but a rubbish game. Jackson isn't the difference nor the remedy to a problem. That lays elsewhere

I must confess it took me three reads... but you nailed it

Must have driven you nuts ....

Only 8 One of the few genuine gems for us.

Out: Yipps In: Goals

If as I suspect some will think " Berry out.. great... bloody pest".." we've a better chance now" ... well they'd be right and a lot more wrong with much to learn about our real chances of pulling off a sneaky win . Brisbane just showed how you win when the gods decide to give you a wake up. Sadly I suspect we're about to get a massive wake up ourselves . Not thinking a visit to the Lions Den will go well.

Send this to the club ..... wrap a brick in this. Maybe they might take note