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goneski. must be minimum of a fortnight's holiday.

so joe daniher got jabbed when he was under the age of consent?

players are going to feel it, big time. very hot out there. man, frost, hogan, and vandenburg all pretty impressive.

god it's ugly football. classic roos-ross contest.

...and in his next piece of play tries to get through a pack and get pinged for holding it.

and i say that he puts his head over the ball and dished the handball out...

toumpas had the opportunity at half-back to attack the ball - elected not to do so, but instead wanted someone else to go into the clinches. i really can't fathom how he was so highly rated. is sanfl and under age football that bad that he stood out so much? he looked a jet his underage year.

garland is frawley mk 2 - destined to leave at the end of the year. just doesn't look interested.

Pick 4 is deadset cursed. Like Melbourne! It's a double bunger!

Oh Toumpas. Seriously.

Gotta get Grimes off Walters. Doesn't have anything like the awareness required.

Grimes to Bail....that was ugly...

Newton really looks like a footballer. Salem and Toumpas look pretty small compared to the dockers flankers.

Yep, the Bont is a serious talent. Now Footscray just need to hold onto him...

I wonder if Roos and Ross had a quiet chat about each naming a decent side to actually have a serious hit out...

dank is off his rocker.

Libba gone for the season, joining McKenzie from meth coke and our Petracca as players already certain to miss an entire campaign due to ACL tears.

brisbane are good to watch because they take the game on. but it won't help them win games as you say, because teams that control the pace of the game tend to do that. it's no surprise that roos is trying to implement a more controlled style of play for us. based on what i saw, carlton have no midfield depth, and a lack of big bodies. west coast looked sloppy, but man i wish we had schuey or gaff; they would cut it up on the g. footscray were robbed to lose libba, but bont and stringer and macrae are great and exciting young players - boyd is going to take time but if he's lucky with injury could be a player. tigers look very scrappy and similar to carlton without cotchin, deledio and martin there doesn't appear much midfield depth. collingwood has nab challenge specialists now in jesse white and patrick karnezis, while hawthorn have another ripper in jed anderson.

start an afl fantasy classic league, fill it by march 2, win an afl live pass for the year. [censored] easy with so many celebs available to add to your league. site has been rock solid so far, app the same, and the new match centre feature is unreal. it depresses me to see petracca and alex neal-bullen atop the 'u18s stats' in the stats centre (i have fantasy coach, hence i can see it).

For all those saying 'we lost games we could / should have won', I think it's equally valid to say we won games we could / should have lost, in a season where we won four games. I still maintain it is not wins / losses that really matter, it's percentage, as that will tell us more about how competitive we are. Ultimately, if we win 8 games by the skin of our teeth and lose 14 by ten goal margins it's probably not as worthwhile as winning four to six games well, losing another dozen by under 3 goals, and never having a defeat greater than 48 points.

libba's one was nasty. his studs got caught and the way the knee bent was really ugly. terrible luck.

hm, wonder how they'd feel about a straight swap for andrew gaff...

Winning covers a multitude of sins.

I'm pretty negative on likely win / loss to be honest. I was last year too - thought four was best case and when we hit the bye mark around that I thought we might push 6-8, but the end of our year was pathetic. Once again I'm most interested in our percentage. Last year I said 70-80 should be requirement, and we failed that. In 2015, I'd like to see it 80-90%. If we can achieve that then the wins will be there.

i'll go dunn, jamar, tyson, cross, jetta, tom mcdonald.