layzie

Are we looking for inspiration for going through dark periods?

"I thought we played well but just couldn't kick straight, look how many times we hit the post" Any assessment of our games from now on that sound like this I'll be taking with a generous pinch of salt. We've got enough sample data over time where this has happened again and again and again. if it costing us two finals last year wasn't enough and you're happy to keep trotting this out, I cannot help you to see the light. The fact of the matter is that the bad kicking contributes to a bad performance. Part of a good performance means getting enough of those kicks through the big sticks. Time to stop bemoaning bad luck for these results, yes some of those shots were good efforts but near enough is not good enough when it comes to this area and there is no column on the ladder for near misses.

Not if he's an unrestricted free agent

You're right. The only thing I hope for now is how we can deal with these things better and continuous improvement of medical processes on match day.

At the time I thought the Maynard bountygate talk was a bit much. I’m still of the same opinion that it wouldn’t have been right to go after Maynard but after a few days I can see why a thread like this was probably worth the discussion. I personally don’t think Maynard is a thug, I maintain that what he did was a football act that went horribly wrong. But this doesn’t mean that I excuse it. If you choose to leap off the ground at a player and miss the ball it doesn’t exonerate you from all potential consequences that could happen next. The fact is that his action knocked a guy out and caused a retirement and he still needs to live with that fact. The wider public (and it only seems to come from fans outside of MFC) claiming that he had a history of concussion and should have been retired already completely miss the point on this. I maintain that a bump or two and letting him know we were there and in his face was the way to go and it sounds like that is the general consensus here. There was no need to be chummy with him after the game, quick hand shake and off. Not cut and dry, plenty of grey areas.

Yes a very sickening feeling indeed

All the best Trac.

Who cares, we got RoCo behind us now. That's all I need.

"Hiatus from competitive football" made me giggle!

Sorry what are we angry about again? The fact that they pulled him up on it, the rule being stupid, AFL acting 2 weeks later or the fact that the media reported on it? Asking for a friend.

A tragic turn of events. I was hoping that he'd gotten away with a lower grade rupture for his health's sake. This injury has been too real and has gone beyond the question of how long he'll be off the field for, a man's health and future health is at stake. Questions of who is responsible and potential reviews, I'd like to think there will be a time and place for that. It just isn't right now for me, I really hope Christian can make a 100% full recovery. After that box is ticked off I will hope that he can return to playing eventually and getting back to what he does best. We love you mate and we're with you all the way.

At first I thought it was low risk high reward but he's turning out to be a bit of a liability. Not enough tank to play wing, not enough pressure to be the high HFF. Neither fish nor fowl. As Roy said, will give him a bit more time as it's hard to judge anyone right now but it doesn't look like a long stay.

I would have thought a strawberry milkshake would be more fitting for Farage. Then again, he does love a good split.

Older Demon my understanding of the spleen is it helps remove bacteria from the body and keep things clean in the bloodstream. If one were to remove their spleen, what organ would perform this role?

And this is what is scaring a lot of us. I couldn't give a stuff about the season right now I just hope like hell the guy is alright and there aren't any complications.

Midfielders need to stop getting a get out of jail free card with their pressure ratings being passed off as high all-round effort in a game. We got bossed +8 in centre clearances, the moment they win one of those clearances you as an opposition mid are already standing in an in-close position for a pressure act to be recorded by default. It's the equivalent of padding your stats with short kicks in the backline. It's a fallacy, especially when you consider how often we go hard on our forwards for not applying enough defensive pressure each week.

I'm so disappointed in our medical management this year. If it wasn't sending May back in against Adelaide after a week off with cracked ribs and clearly in pain, Lever's tweaked knee in Rd 2 and whether he should have played through it or not, Oliver being sent out with half a hand against Brisbane. Sending Trac back out there yesterday was the last straw. It's just lambs to the slaughter and I have no idea what the rationale is behind it.

Absolutely. I was all for making him earn it and letting him know we 'were there'. But how much extra was there to gain by slamming him into next week? It's burying the lead in my view and the truth is that we weren't hard enough on balance.

Righto, I'm done for tonight and maybe for a while to be honest. Was all for getting stuck in and giving him a bump here and there but that's clearly not good enough, the directive should have been to not let him walk off the field! Forget the football game, this is about honour, hustle, loyalty, respect! Dont forget to visit the other thread for a good old meatheaded discussion on this topic not to be missed!

A section of DL believes that we needed to rough up Maynard to send a message and stick up for our former team mate. I'm all for a little flag flying from time to time but would this have actually helped us win the football game? It kind of feels like some people just wanted blood regardless of the result.

You've clearly never played competitive sports if you still think square ups in this day and age matter. This club just came off the worst loss we've had in years and the answer was apparently to lose sight of what needed to be done today for the sake of a [censored] square up? Get real. I've never been a fan of picking opposition players up off the ground, I want to be competitive and flying the flag can be important at times but save your dinosaur BS for the stone age and maybe check yourself into a nursing home if you still think this is the way to win football games. How the hell would today have been any better if we lost and roughed him up? Seriously? Staying out of this thread now. You can all fight over it to your heart's content, or start following bare knuckle boxing if you want to see a fight that bad.

Thought May was pretty poor today. Uncharacteristically a momentum killer, he constantly got sucked high up the ground leaving 1 v 2s on the last line often, the guy was totally at sea today. That mark in the 3rd where he went to play on and handball it straight into Jack Crisp a metre away was pathetic and his weak effort on Hoskin-Elliott right on the stroke of half time when we desperately needed to not concede was unforgivable. This was a very un-Steven May like performance and i'd expect him to be pretty unhappy with it too.

Certainly a couple of wasted shots. On field and bigger picture.

Not going to use the dreaded L word but both sides were pretty off I thought. We in particular made a lot of horrible skill error mistakes in bad areas that could only be explained by fatigue (for instance Fritsch in the middle a few times and May taking a contested mark and handballing into Jack Crisp a metre away). It also happened early against Freo when we went forward through the middle, Kozzie gathered beautifully and then scrubbed the kick about 10 metres along the ground. June is notorious for these kinds of games but my word they are ugly to watch when terrible skills come out of no-where.

St Kilda were rubbish, let's face it.