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Or just open your eyes. I recall a couple of years ago many thought Oscar hopeless. Today he is our main key back.

Neither would I. Weid is on target to be a good player for us.

Yeah superb bump, ran past the ball and with force bumped a bloke not expecting it and bruised his lung, which saw him coughing up blood. Extremely courageous act. Lucky not to connect with TMac's head, or it would have been weeks, even though it was not deemed worthy of a free kick to us, as was no other incident in our F50 the whole night, even though the ball was in our F50 twice the time of Port, who got multiple frees, 50's and suspect marks and goals. Sorry for the umpire rant I am still angry at them.

Pies will not lose De Goey IMO. Pies will lose players to keep him and he will forego some cash, but IMO will not leave. He will sign a 2 year deal at less cash, say $800k per year, or a longer term one, if he is happy to forego the future offers that may come. Pies will try and pension Wells off and other players can be moved on as well. Hearing rumours about Moore going as well, but I think he will only go if they get another key forward. Hello Tom, even though the Tigers appear to be the leaders in his chase.

When the ball comes into the F50 where are our smaller forwards placed and what are they doing? We don't need the big mark from Jesse or TMac to get all of our goals. Look at the 3 last quarter goals of Port for example, Sam Grey, Thomas and a Westhoff 50. We need the occasional chip kick into the F50 to a player making position, like other clubs do to us. Our smaller forwards seem to drift in and out of the game, while for example the Tigers small forwards stay involved, even without the ball, by performing the 1%'s, chase, tackle, knock on, make position, take your man away from the contest ( open up space) etc. To me our game plan going into the F50 (against good sides), combined with suspect skill under pressure and a lack of pace, is what is letting us down against the better sides.

Looks like Greg has made better use of bananas than Elvis did, with his fried banana sandwiches.

My question was a simple "Who do you see as our developing mids and half backs with pace and good disposal skills? Your answer above has nothing to do with my question. Probably no point in asking you any more then.

Now we are talking, pardon the pun.

Who do you see as our developing mids and half backs with pace and good disposal skills? As I have said before I am not as in love with Gaff as others and think he will probably stay anyway.

Wow we butchered the ball on friday. Wonder if the bananas were off.

Well ANB was certainly not on Motlop when ANB ran into goal and missed from 10 metres out, nor when he smashed a handball into Jones' face from 2 metres away, nor when he miskicked to teammates from 20 metres away twice, nor when he fumbled the ball a few times and nor when he dropped an easy mark. Might have played on him at some other stage of the game, not that I noticed it.

Lists are constantly being turned over every year and I spoke about finding more skilled players, not sacking the whole list. Your comment that we had only 3 players in a finals like pressure game, who have played in finals is actually misleading. We have played in several games of finals like pressure recently, including QB and Anzac game, not to mention the last game last year and several others and most of the players playing friday also played in those games. We may have some good ball users, but we also play plenty who aren't. If the Recruiters take your lead we will never look for or get any. I also said we can hopefully develop our own improved ball use. I don't think blind loyalty in a club helps anyone when discussing the state of a club's list. You seem unwilling to concede that we need some more players with high skills and extra pace. I would have thought that was obvious.

Silly boy.

I think we need to inject his "get a goal from nothing" talent, even though he hasn't set the world on fire at Casey. I get the feeling he has a few issues off the field, which he has had in the past and they are distracting him. I would tell him he has to apply defensive pressure all the time and irrespective of goals, that is his minimum expectation. Create run and options. No time for star gazing and drifting in and out of the game. If he fails to do that, if given the chance, I think he may not be on our list for too much longer.

Well we haven't added to it on his performance.

I disagree with your suggestion that we will learn from it and then the problem is fixed. We have a deficiency in skill which is highlighted against the better teams. You don't just "learn from it" and suddenly become skillful. That is ridiculous to suggest. If I spoke to Goodwin I am pretty confident he would acknowledge a lack of" great users of the ball and pace." Do we find loose targets and hit them inside the F50 when we play good sides? Obviously not often enough to win. That is the problem. We know that is the problem as we have seen it so many times over the last couple of years. What do we do to fix the problem? We don't just rely on learning from it, we bring in players with the required skill set or develop our own who have them,but might not be getting a game. To say the answer is to " learn from it" is to use your words "twaddle".

You have probably seen more of Dion than I have this year, so I accept your optimism in him. I personally haven't seen it yet. Hope you are right though and he becomes a good player for us.

Disagree that it is an easy fix. You don't just put skill into players that are deficient in that area. Against the Pies for example, we definitely tried to pass into the forward 50 a number of times and sprayed the footy. A number of our players coming towards the forward 50 are not great at hitting targets. Tyson, ANB, Oliver, Jones, Brayshaw, Vince, Hibberd, Hunt when fit etc. It is a skill to be able to hit a target under pressure and we are not great at it. I have said this for a few years. We have concentrated on the hard at it players with success, now we need a couple of players with real finesse, to create the opportunities that the hard won contested ball should provide. Friday we dominated the ball and contest and lost. That just shouldn't happen. Also a lack of pace going into the forward 50 was clearly evident, as shown up by Port being able to find a chip kick into the 50 for a shot at goal. Our goals generally came from the individual effort of say a Tom Mc beating the pack. That is not sustainable.

Now seven.

six now

Now nearly 3/4 time and Sam Frost revelling in the chilly conditions.

Frost has been very good in the first half for Casey today. If Weid isn't ready, surely he is the bloke who can play CHF or CHB and pinch hit in the ruck. Big, strong and quick, while capable of making a mistake, he is surely better value than Tim Smith at this stage. I would rather him on the hff than ANB, because at least he has weapons.

Sorry, you are correct the 42% was for his entire game. The 4 possies after 1/4 time was correct. If it was the same % throughout the game he could have had 1 effective possie for 3/4. He is a mid or small forward. That is pathetic. He also seems to have no feel for the game. See his miss from the goal square and his handball from 2 metres, hard as hell into Jones’ face. I cant believe a tired Spargo wouldn’t have been much better for us.

How can it be explained away by the umpiring department as they will attempt to do, that in an area where 65% of the game was played and we were attempting to kick goals when Port were trying to stop us, there was not one infringement noticed against us.

Umpire 11 the main culprit. An Adelaide umpire, big surprise. Curtis Deboy is an Australian rules football umpire currently officiating in the Australian Football League. He first umpired in the Central District Junior Football League in 2004. He made his umpiring debut in the South Australian National Football League in 2009 at the age of 19 and went on to umpire 119 SANFL games, including the 2013, '14, and '15 Grand Finals. He was on the AFL umpiring rookie list for 2013 and 2014, officiating his first game, substituted on as an emergency umpire, in 2014. In 2015, he was added to the senior umpiring list, and made his debut as a non-emergency umpire in Round 4 of that year, in a match between the Western Bulldogs and Adelaide at Docklands Stadium.