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D+ is very harsh on North. JHF decided to leave and they had to make the best of a bad lot like us with Jackson. They turned JHF into pick 2. Following that pick 1 into 3 and F1st is good dealing too if you don't want the player GWS does at 1, ie Cadman. You still get the 2 players you want and the F1st. They got a couple of handy players from Freo for their must-trade assistance picks, which is decent going with their coaching uncertainty.

When you buy the jumper at the Demon Shop at the MCG they will iron on your number of choice at an extra charge

A trade up could happen on draft night if there's someone on our draft list that is available later than we expected. Then maybe 37 + F2nd for a pick in the early 20s.

"I was shocked Turned to the missus, she was shocked Totally blown away"

Put down that burning pot.

Patience grasshopper. @Lucifers Hero will explain all to you after today's dealing is done.

If Grundy played against Sydney in the PF the Pies were into the GF.

Cage fight to the death.

Brian Taylor - contracted to 7 though

Yes I agree it's the right call for them, country boy possibly less likely to "go home" too. And yes they should bid Ashcroft. It was a joke that Daicos wasn't bid until 4 last year. I was more addressing @spirit of norm smith musing that we could trade up to get 1 off GWS - that is dreamland talk.

We have got that Petty option, I'm in the camp that he saves more goals than he can create. But it's definitely an option with Tomlinson and Turner in the wings. I think we need to see where TMac and BBB are at over summer and leading into next year. We probably need 2 of TMac, BBB and JVR available each game for the next 2 years. If we get 100 games out of the 3 of them across that period then Petty can stay back. I should add that we need to recruit another ready to go KPF by the end of that period - I think that's possible - we can clear cap with outgoing players and we have a strong future draft hand.

Agree if, as expected, Weed goes then we'll need some ruck/fwd depth added.

We've got 8 players that didn't play in our finals' teams that should be ready to go next year - Laurie, Bowey, JVR, Howes, JJ, Chandler, Woewodin and Turner. That's not counting D.Smith, McVee and AMW who can all improve with another year in the system. They'll either get opportunities or leave like Bedford. We also had Tomlinson, TMac, Dunstan and J.Smith not in the 22. Our depth is not as dire as you make out.

I wonder if O'Meara and Mitchell will both be traded?

GWS just paid a big price to trade up to 1 to take Cadman.

While I'm rolling ... I was standing on a corner in Sydney Olympic Park Such a fine sight to see It's a Dee my lord, name of Toby Bedford Slowing down to take a look at me Come on Toby, don't say maybe I gotta know if your sweet speed is gonna save me The Dees will lose and we will win We'll never do such a deal again The first player we've ever traded in Take it easy

I gave this a run elsewhere but I think it still stacks up ... He got drafted in a fever Earlier than Hayden Young When we were rucking Luke Jackson We won the flag in 21 Now we've trade Luke Jackson Lamby got us two first rounds Watch out Luke Jackson Don't let Freo down

Brodie Grundy is now a Dee Ned Guy's contract was all you hoped it would be But Fly and Wrighty, Fly and Wrighty couldn't guarantee That by Tuesday evening you would still a Magpie be

I think I see the big picture plan - next year Witts, then Darcy, then ROB and we've fully cornered the ruck market.

Now that @Redleg I will agree with you is a corrupt deal. The AFL should never have approved that.

I'm not 100% sure Max has thought this through fully. He's gone from rucking against Brodie twice a year to rucking against him at every training session.

Yes but quite frankly most of the Pies supporters in the thread were more reasonable than the Demons supporters. Danster - holy moly! I remember you from the RSFA days - "it's only other vets can understand"

Grundy deal crashed Big Footy ...

Sydney have 14, 17, 37, 75 and all next year's picks so if they finish the same 17, 36, 55, 73 Doubt we'd get 37 or F2nd, probably F3rd - something like 55 I wouldn't do it for that unless it closed another deal for us.

We could do 13 + 27 for 16 + 41 + Grundy. If the draft is even after the first few we could still get our player at 16, and 41 will come right in after Brisbane's F/Ss and we don't have a 2nd pick until 54.