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This doesn’t sound like a trade and FA rumour to me.

Ah Chee and Neale don't approve. So glad Carlton missed finals again.

Think the trade period hasn't started yet. Are you always this premature?

Culture

The reason we didn't go further this year is because our best players were beaten up after a long campaign last year, straight into this year. Our incredibly tough fixture in the 2nd half of the year compounded this. We gambled heavily on making top 4 and winning the first final. We achieved the former but missed the latter. We really needed another week off. We moved Brayshaw into the midfield because Clarrie, Trac and Viney were so banged up and that was a good move I hope we persist with next year. You can say we should have used Chandler, JVR and Dunstan to give players a rest, but I don't think they would have enabled us to win enough to make top 4. We could have accepted that we'd have to win it from outside top 4. Maybe that would have been more prudent. Our game plan is super taxing and that makes it very hard to back up. Very few teams have gone back to back after their breakthrough year. The way we play we can win more flags but don't expect consecutive ones. We don't have a culture problem. Look no further than the Dogs, Port and Essendon for last year's finalists with culture problems. Look at Casey this isn't a club with culture problems. Maybe the OP would be happier down at Linton St.

Maybe, although maybe they just appreciate his match winning effort against Crossley in the wet.

It was like soap out there. Growers dropped 4 or 5 chest marks. Weid was tremendous.

So great for White and Munro.

Munro tackle machine Commentators talking up Southports #29 Boakye but Chandler and Bedford have touched him up.

He doesn't get enough of it. Chandler light years ahead of him.

Wait, did you go nearly 24 hours between similar posts about why this is a bad idea? He's coming and there's every chance he'll be an MFC Premiership player. Better get used to it. Oh I know "happy to be wrong"

Pendlebury 34y8m, Howe 32y2m, Sidebottom 31y8m, Elliott 30y0m. These players were crucial to Collingwood's performance this year. It doesn't last forever.

Might be a bit extreme ...

Maybe. Doesn't sound like a good career move for Meek to come to a club behind Gawn and Grundy. May as well stay at Freo behind Darcy and Jackson. Surely he could find something more fruitful.

Cats emergency list is impressive - Parfitt, O'Connor, Menegola and Ceglar.

"the most effectual ..."

Ch, Ch, Ch, Ch, Changes ... We need a lockdown defender who's strong quick and has sure ball handling - not asking for much am I? We were very shaky when the ball hit the deck in the back 50. I think getting Bowey into the 22 and Salem back to full fitness will help but they're not the lockdowns. All 4 PF teams have dangerous match winning small-medium forwards: Stengle, C.Cameron, Elliott and Papley. Hibbo has done very well but he's on his last legs, I don't think even @Lucifers Hero has the confidence that Jayden Hunt can go with them, Joel Smith has the speed and size but is a concern with his ball handling and is always injured, Trent Rivers has the speed and size and is a possibility but he'd need to improve his defensive work and ball-handling, I think James Harmes has the attributes but we tried him in defense a few years back and he was a failure there. I think our other major problem is that we can't afford to have ANB and Sparrow in transition possession chains because neither of them are clean enough. It would be nice to replace both of them but that's probably not going to happen, ANB is in the leadership group and the FD clearly rates his work ethic. Sparrow is more tradeable anyway - both Adelaide and Port could be interested with Sloane and Boak near the end and Crouch on the outer. I think getting JJ into the 22 in Sparrow's role would be a big help - he's much cleaner than either of them and we also have Chandler in the wings too. As posted elsewhere I think Tomlinson should look for more opportunity, we've lowballed Jayden with a 2 year offer - someone will offer him 3 or 4 years, Toby Bedford would have signed if he's going to - he's off for more opportunity, and as above, I think Tom Sparrow is tradeable. There's some 2nd and 3rd round capital there for a lockdown defender - but I don't know who we should target - suggestions welcome ... I think Will Hamill at Adelaide could be a handy pick-up, he's got some size, pace and is a nice left-foot kick. Victorian too. He has had concussion issues which is a concern. I don't think he'd necessarily solve our lockdown issue but I think he could be a decent trade for Sparrow. He's contracted to the end of 2024, but so is Sparrow.

What BS is this? Grundy averages a contested mark per game, same as LJ: https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-collingwood-magpies--brodie-grundy?advv=Y And 3.5 marks a game compared with Luke Jackson 2.8 https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-collingwood-magpies--brodie-grundy https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-melbourne-demons--luke-jackson Max is the best contested mark in the game (4.5 marks, 2 contested), Grundy is not at that level but he's capable.

I think Freo's starting point for Jackson would be 2022 1st and 2023 1st, no doubt we want more, but Freo supporters on BF and probably Bell want something back. I think it's going to end up close to that with garnish.

"there is no way WC is going to trade pick 2 for LJ" .... 8, 9, 10

How about you go back and read my original post where I said that "WC won't trade pick 2 for Jackson" ie MFC won't receive pick 2 which is the important point. I did not say WC won't do a trade involving pick 2 so they can get suitable picks to trade for Jackson which is an entirely different thing.

West Coast split 2 with GC for 5 and 7 and offer us 5 and 20 for Jackson. Freo's 2 1sts beyond 10 don't compete.

We clearly don't rate Lobb, we've known for a while that Jackson is gone, if we rated Lobb we would have been all over him.

Two years ago, Jeremy Cameron was one year younger than Grundy when he was traded for 13, 15 and 20 with 2 future 2nds back. I think a late 1st is fair value for Grundy if Collingwood pick up 30% of his salary.

There's every chance your namesake will go past him next year.