old55

$100 on Viney for the Rising Star if he's still eligible would be a good bet IMO.

I haven't looked at all the line-ups but the ones I did pretty much all have Clark rucking - an idea I am in favour of. Fitzpatrick appears to be insurance IMO - I think we need to retain that insurance. If Blease, Tapscott and Strauss can't make our 22 ...

Caution about our prospects is understandable after recent history. And we haven't had any really good players come onto out list for a very long time. But I was surprised how good Mitch Clark was in early 2012 - he is genuine star quality and if he can get back we've got a lot to look forward to.

Maybe some pick upgrade action 58 into the 40s, 40 into the 2nd round will be harder to achieve.

Not change for me. I haven't seen any of the U18 play so I'm just going off description. But with Viney and Jones I I just don't see short-arse inside mid as #1priority. Freeman description more attractive.

Wonder if thorp could play back - what's his pace like?

Crouch doesnt sound like our primary need.

Fascinating that the pies want to upgrade 10 to 6. With Mcdonald at 8 that only puts them ahead of brisbane at 7 and us at 9 - they must be worried their target will be picked there - I wonder who?

Like the sound of Freeman.

Hawthorn did get dudded. I think all the other compo was about right and fair. Having a scale based on finishing position is a very good idea and very fair. There probably needs to be a special category for marquee players at the AFL discretion, it's very hard to write rules for all situations. What do posters think would have been fair compo for Franklin? Ablett-style mid first round and pick after 1st round would be OK IMO. The other realistic alternative is a top 3 pick.

Has some Hodge similarities. Maybe running and kicking style.

despite Roos arrival and our trading so far there's a fair chance we'll have pick 2 again.

Equating Judd and Tyson is any way also means you're also equating: Kennedy with pick 72 and pick 9 with pick 36 (53 and 54 cancel each other out)

leave pick 55 alone

Would Geelong have been flogs if they traded 2 for 7 (Selwood) + players in 2006, or Adelaide 2 for 10 (Dangerfield) + players in 2007. I think it depends on what we think is happening at pick 9.

That's a key question. I read in a couple of places that our interviews at the draft combine were very searching and demanding. It could be that we've settled on a player or players that are likely to be still available at 9. Recruiters have a very good idea who will get picked when in the top 10, although that is usually closer to draft day.

Mitchie 185/85 Vince 186/87 Lyons 184/78 Myers 191/92 Cross 187/87 Shiel 180/84 Bugg 185/76 Buntine 189/86 Some big bodies there ...

A big factor in that analysis is our relative draft positions across those years - some years we had a lot of early picks and some we didn't, it's nice data but it's meaningless without that factored in.

3 draft changes - in ND and PSD Trades don't count Rookie upgrades do count As WJ suggested Hogan upgrade may also count

Where have they shown "how much they want Scharenberg" ? Please provide a link.

Is this the article you are referring to? ASADA ready with lifetime sport bans

Sylvia compo pick. Myers has the potential to be our Josh Kennedy trade - big-bodied under-used mid. But Essendon's notorious trading difficulties - see their refusal to trade Crameri for 22 - and WJ's warning about Essendon's players are obstacles.

That's over-cooking it IMO - 22 + 40 + 58 for Vince + Lyons + 48 ought to be a deal, with 48 on-traded to Freo for Michie.

My impression is that Essendon will want that pick in the draft. Don't forget that their 1st pick is currently around 50.

Do we really need live early draft picks if we can trade them for equally good players with AFL experience? I realise we have to use 3 picks but one can b a rookie upgrade e.g. Clisby, and if we have to delist some uncontracted players to make room for these picks then we could re-draft them. With our list age profile I don't think it maters if we don't pick up any 18 yos. As some have posted, if we used our first 5 picks including the Sylvia compo (2, 22, 23, 40, 58) on say Shiel, Vince, Myers, Lyons, Michie and picked up Cross as a delisted FA, it wouldn't matter if our remaining draft picks were 70, 80 and 90.