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I mentioned this in a pinned thread, and as no-one will see it I will ask again: Is Gawn our Tippett? Everyone wanted Talia (shorter than Watts, slower than Jurrah, not an out-and-out forward) but Gawn is different in that he is 5 inches taller and plays a role not unlike Tippett (Good presence, uses body in marking contests). He would be the release player for a mid under pressure - kick it to the top of the square where Gawn is towering over a 'ruckman trying to play defender.' This mitigates one of my concerns - that any player introduced into our forward line would have to compete for a midfielder's attention with Watts and Jurrah. A competition that Watts and Jurrah would win. However, if Gawn has a role (in 3 to 5 years time, and let's be honest, that's all we care about) as a part-time ruckman/part-time forward he would attract ball through his sheer size, and from the 'release kick' when players are under pressure outside the 50. This is how I would develop him at Casey for the next couple of years. Jamar can play this role with Martin while Gawn is developing.

No-one is going to see this thread now that it has been pinned. The mods are always one step ahead...

I think you are asking for too much. Transparency is fine, but some things don't need to be yelled at the world. If I was Garland I would want my employers to respect a certain amount of my privacy and let me get on with my footy and my life. I wouldn't need my employers telling all and sundry the extent of my injuries.

It looks fantastic and you know it. You're ashamed to be attracted to a bald man with a porno moustache and you're acting out. Keep it going, Bails.

I understand they have been delisted, but it would not look good if we didn't do what we promised we would do. Therefore, I will wait for confirmation of this before believing your, possibly misintepreted, conversation. Personally, I would prefer to add a couple of rookies but I don't like coaxing young blokes into agreeing to be delisted with a promise of a RL spot and then pulling the carpet from under them.

No they weren't. I could name on one hand the posters that said that we should go for BA over 'the best tall forward at 11.' It was like a bloody mantra, if you go and look at the 'The Third Draft' thread it's OP by Demonland was devoted to tall players as if there was some compulsive obsession, rather than a need, for a tall at 11. Sound reasoning. That's what I asked for - if a mid was rated higher than a KPP, don't overlook him because of his height. I was going with the talent. If the talent means a 3rd tall so be it, if the talent means an extra mid in the rotation so be it. It ended up as the latter option, as it usually does. A majority of the best talls don't reveal their talent until they are in their 20s. At least you're on the same page with regard to people wanting Pick 11 or Pick 18 to be spent on talls to relegate Jurrah to a third tall. It's ridiculous to think that there would be an identified talent at 11 that could relegate Jurrah and not be picked in the top 10 ( or even at 1 or 2 by us). I will, at this point in time, stand by my statement that Talia or Black would have been third talls, and not worthy of Pick 11. Gysberts is a mid and, as we are all well aware, you need a multitude of bodies to run through your midfield in the modern game. We have made our value bets at 34 and 50 with talls that would provide a different option to Talia and Black (and by extension Watts, Jurrah, and Bate), and I think they have made the right decision not to gamble earlier in the draft.

I can relate, but game theory requires rational actors and common sense decisions.

But re-rookied? I don't think some of you are right to assume this conversation means we can pick up Jack's brother in December. I think it means we got Gawn and Fitzpatrick because Newton and Meesen agreed to go onto the RL. I think they'll be down at Casey next year.

Is Gawn our Tippett? Very similar... Cough...Post 51...cough. I'm overdoing it, aren't I? Well, Tippett and Gawn. Same cloth?

Hey, why the hate? Just giving prescient comments over here, just telling you how it's gonna play, just doin' my thing... OK, I'll stop now... But, hey, how good is our midfield going to be in a few years?

Well, I found the thread. Got tied into a Demonland 'let's have a look at the talls we won't pick because we should have listened to rpfc when he said that getting the best available kids is the way to go early in the draft' thread. Gawn and Fitzpatrick can develop into the 'big lump' in the square. Fitzpatrick has 2 inches on Talia and Black, and Gawn has 5 inches on those two. At their height Talia and Black were never going to be anything more than a 3rd option behind Watts and Jurrah. Geelong has a midfield that grew up together and now our midfield has an enormous amount of talent from the past three drafts - Morton, Grimes, Maric, Blease, Strauss, Scully, Trengove, Gysberts, and Tapscott. That's picks 1, 2, 4, 11, 14, 17, 18, 19, and 21 invested in the middle of the ground. Remember - it's the midfield stupid.

Scully - Skulls Trengove - JT Gysberts - BA (Best Available) Tapscott - JT's Mate Gawn - Fishin' Fitzpatrick - Chinless

Well, well, is this BP recruiting the best player he thinks is available? In the end, BP didn't want to spend Pick 11 on a 3rd Forward which is what Talia would have been. Can the mods find my 'A Tall Order?' thread. I can't find it anywhere and I wish to gloat with a massive bump.

And 'the marginals' care about whether we recruit Luke Ball? Or do 'the marginals' want to see the two, shiny new toys we get at 1 and 2? And 'the marginals' needs to be explained for those a bit fuzzy on what the hell you are refering to. I assumed 'fairweather supporters' but I can't be certain.

Couldn't care less what they say. If we pick him up we will say 'he was the best option.' If we don't pick him up we will say 'he wasn't the best option.'

If anyone's worried about drafting a player, it's simple. Scully has had OP before. Do your medical checks and trust the medical advice. I'm sure that's what they are doing.

Alright, I am no expert but the rest of you losers have done one so I will too. Scully Trengove Jetta Gawn And now I am guessing... And using sentimental reasons... Grimes Patrick And with no sentiments but still extremely uneducated guessing... Reid Bollenhagen

Gawn looks a likely type. Is he the big lump people want in our forward line? Would he be able to match it with the Ryder-type ruckmen? Does getting him at 18 mean we can get a mid at 11? I would say - Probably, No, and yes.

Maybe. A lot of you don't think he can/will take Rivers' spot in the side. It's not groundbreaking news but I think that a lot of you are right.

I can say Hoopla has provided a few posts that are actually worth reading. I can say nothing similar about what you have served up. Your grinding axe is nauseating.

Extra innings it is. Yeah, yeah...glib. I couldn't give a .... . Keep going at it you two. Dollars to donuts - neither of you gets anything out of it.

A George Michael concert for 'all of us?' I just shivered...

I added my fill a long time ago. No need to dig up a fresh grave.

If that is an illustration of wisdom, then being a wise man has a low acceptance level. What do you say, master? Things could change, padawan. Huh?! You're kidding me right? Here I am learning under a Jedi-fracking-Knight and that's all you got?! 'Things could change'?! Back to the thread - Jack Watts good player, Luke Ball also good player. Hope both play Melbourne.

Wow. You have a problem with me don't you? Everything had been said and you just want to go into extra innings with HSOG. Believe when I say this, the guy will come back at you again and again and he will never see it your way. Like you, he is smart and stubborn, and there is enough butting of heads in this thread to illustrate where everyone stands on this issue. Why continue with a battle that sees no ground won or lost?