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Rucci is exposing his intelligence and footy IQ there. Wow. Who in their right mind thinks that Vince is worth a top 5 pick?

Work harder and you can get uncontested possessions. That is an easy win next year as Roos gives the confidence. That will be where a huge improvement could see us back to where the 'pack' is. But hard ball is won by a certain type of footy player and it would be good if we used ND2 on someone with that skill set. I am sure they will be a hard worker, but if they cannot win their own footy they shouldn't be taken in the first few picks. Tupac Shakur. (That's just the way it is)

I will add one thing to this argument - 'playing against men' also involves 'playing with men' and if the youngster in question is getting the ball on the outside because of bigger bodies getting it out to him then that negates the 'playing against men' argument entirely. Judge them on whether they can get their own footy, no matter what level they play.

Ask me in three years if this was a successful trade period.

We haven't done crazier things than that trade.

That is the third statement of 'fact' from you about a trade involving Pick 2. Stop posting for a while.

Guys. Simmer down.

Same issue here... WHAT RUMOURS AM I MISSING??!! I will make one myself to calm me down; Jamar for Pick 2 and Stephen Colbert? No, that doesn't make sense, we have pick 2!!

I hope you weren't one of the fawn dogs salivating over Simpson before he took over at WCE... Dew, or whoever takes the role, is allowed the luxury of a running head start under Roos. Whatever flavour of the month amongst assistants will come and go and we will groom this person for our own ends. There is no perfect way to install a coach. We have decided to Poach and Groom.

You are putting a lot of stock into us getting this kid... What if he is settled over there? What if we don't like the price? If we haven't shut the doors yet, we are not going to call it quits because of a bloke called Viv...

I would take Steven. Armitage and something else would be an idea.

Dees2014 - I have little doubt that we are struggling to attract who we would like for pick 2. It's not the end of the world if we keep it but we are not attractive to experienced players and we will fail to attract who we want. We can try and improve by about 30% points next year and go after some experience next year. Our decisions are limited, I just hope we make a good decision.

This would be a nothing trade. We already have 7 spots to fill this offseason. Meh.

If you got rid of the promise from the MFC, it would be hollow shell, an old ruin. All we have is promise unfulfilled. And Jones.

No surprises. CC is a great Melbourne person and when you see him at the footy I hope you treat him with more respect than shown here. You don't have to buy him a beer but let me know where he is and I will. Jumped on a grenade partly of his own making (w/ the rest of the MFC and Adrian Anderson) and I thank him for it. As for Craig - I hope the payout was not substantial. I have no idea why he has gone to Ess. From bad governance to worse - frying pan fire comes to mind. Oh well...

What do you think happens to it? It follows the pick it would have followed. It doesn't disappear.

Seems a tad pointless. And you deny until they're gone.

GWS should make a stand and take pick two for Shiel and send Adams to the PSD. It's about principle, people.

Paid through the nose because that is what they need. Roughhead out of the ruck. We need a while mess of things so we can't entertain that sort of deal. And young Billy Longer? Where are your jibes now son? Talk to other clubs because you are not going to Hawthorn now.

They feel as though teams will attempt to 'game' the system if they have a definitive guide of the compensation parameters. And the compensation is tied to where a team finishes because bad teams losing player X is worse than good teams losing player X. To have three of the bands tied to where teams finish is a good idea and helps to bring some equalization as bad teams require more help when it's best players leave than good teams.

I wonder what we can get for him...

It's different, I will give them that... It gives a running head start to a prospective coach and allows them to learn of one of the best while being assured of their position. And 'the Assistant Coach flavor of the month' wears thin with me. So as long as they pass TimD's EQ testing and Roos thinks they know footy - bring him in 3 years early. Maybe we can develop some people for once.

Why not? We begged out current coach to come to us...

The PA should fight harder to get rid of it, do something for the kids who put their life on hold for a shot at AFL footy and get treated like an afterthought at most clubs.

Frawley leaving next year will mean we get Band 1 comp and a top 5 pick most likely, or we trade or keep him as a RFA. If you don't know the FA rules, google them or search for a thread on here. Now back to the rumours...