Stiff Arm

Its a salary dump. If GCS can give up a good player and pick 7 to gain cap space then we are more than generous giving a second rounder to free up approx $600k from their books in exchange for Grundy. Yes, yes, I know its not exactly apples with apples, but neither is comparing this to the May trade. Bowes isn't 2 x AA, but Grundy is yet to prove himself after some very serious injuries. Iirc the May trade wasnt reported as a salary dump, they wanted him to stay Time for the club to get a favourable deal done if Collingwood want this settled early, especially since the AFL have openly approved dumping. Otherwise it could easily drag on until the last day holding up a raft of deals they want to do. He could even end up staying at the Pies, that would [censored] them over sweetly!

Freo big winners there imo

What a [censored] comment. The guy coached us to our first flag in 57 years and we are still very much in the window Goody's done far more walking than talking

Nah, its his off-field glasses making him look smarter #grundymyths

Reckon there might be a spot opening up at Brisbane for next year. Can't see Kangas letting go of Clarko, unless its not their call. However Brisbane have less to lose if Fages steps down or is stood down. Depends upon the outcome of this Hawks investigation

Would be good if the panel was independent and not set up or funded by the AFL. The best way to get the right outcome (whatever that may be) is not to have the AFL run it or have influence over it

Not an accountant, but wouldn't he be on max tax rate regardless?

Geez... a lot of posters on Land claiming scoops of late and getting them very wrong. All good for a bit of fun, can't be right all the time!

For starters, I'd like to know who paid for the hobby farms that Cameron, Hawkins and Stanley own just outside of Geelong city But does anyone seriously think that the AFL want another SC debacle? They are too busy furiously sweeping the Hawthorn racism disclosure under the carpet. Transparency and accountability are looooooow on the AFLs priority list

GCS would def thought of that. And it would be the first thought in every club recruiter's mind I'm wondering if the kid's body is shot or he's just not a best 22. Backended contract, maybe $1.6mill over final two years. Could be a simple as a club paying a lot money to buy pick 7 (which will end up being be at least 8) and have one list spot filled with a NQR Bowes

Some people just love to argue and can't let it go I'm more upset that Tracc used the term "versed"

And who might that be? 🤔

Surely they must have some sort of behavioural exit clause in their contract? Demonland lawyers on here know what are likely standard inclusions?

I had been told in the early 2000s by a recruiter from another club (not Hawthorn, it must be said) that he believed Hawthorn had a long-standing, unofficial policy of not recruiting indigenous kids. Said they had changed that but put in place strict controls on all young recruits not from Melb city. At the time I thought he was spinning sheet. Not now

Thomo, like BBB, runs mostly in straight lines or with the turning circle of the Queen Mary. Struggles with changes in direction big time. I hope to hell that Turner steps up next year because I want Petty to play as a KPF in 2023

Absolutely. Our delivery inside 50 has been appalling for 3 of the last 4 years. And last year Charlie was elite. Long bombs into the pocket from inside the centre square help no one in our side. Spargo at Geelong or Sydney would be highly valued. Picket Fence.... more like Paling Fence

Agreed. The overturning of his suspension led him to get those final 3 votes

To be fair, Tracc scored very highly as well. Probably becomes hard for umpires to choose between them. I'm just happy with those two having an outstanding year

I think you'll find the rate of indigenous children taken from their parents is much, much higher than that of non indigenous

But you understand she personally signed the Act that legalised the stolen generation? See Deanox's post on the previous page

Agreed. If we pulled out of the Grundy trade they would struggle to fit in McStay, Frampton and Hill without serious, fast shuffling of their current mix. Jackson to Freo will determine what we can offer to the Pies for Grundy. Grundy deal agreed upon will determine whether of not Collingwood can fit in those 3

I think Jesse did that all by himself

So she should shut up and not talk about anything else but football when asked, despite this being about her teamates??? Its more than politics By her standing in AFLW she is a spokesperson for her teamates

Good article. The AFL "chooses not to offend anyone, but can end by pleasing no one." Like some, I didn't mind the minute silence, despite being a republican. I can put up with that. However, the playing of God Save the Queen was unnecessary and tone deaf to what was appropriate