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How can you ruin a young players career on this sort of logic. Yes I was annoyed and disappointed that Jay missed the last few rounds but he is a future back pocket fir a decade and his ability will win out in 2021.

And they will be older if they recruit Higgins next year and delist Narkle!! Gary " The Litylemaster" at 35 will retire of course and prob Harry Taylor at 33/34?

Let's get Petty fit and firing and KP back or forward awaits. Liked Sparrows improvement and the way he was hungry when either in the play or resting on the Forward line to score. Goals from mids are priceless and we must get more from 2021on.

Not sure on what I've seen on Stephenson lately He is devoid of all confidence and doesn't want to go in fir the ball Phillips has always struck me as a hard worker and bobs up fir a goal now an then. Maybe Polec warts and all is the go as he is a longer kick and penetrating to the forward area or A target. Still mid twenties also.

Some Good points Dr D and Pollyanna about our age group which most stars this year are coming into their prime AFL lifetime and games. Youth is looking good with 2019 3 guns Plus Locky and 2018 listers inc Sparrow Jordan and Spargo from 2017 and Weid A little older. BUT as I keep repeating all or most of these need to keep developing fast for or us to get into a premiership window. That improvement if supplemented with Petty plus Ben Brown say (or Daniher or Gunston ) Polec or a Giants young mid or small Or Narkle from Cats AND Saad or Will Brodie from Suns ie 3 ready made niche selections fir desperate needs any thing is possible from 2021 on. Most if not all are in the frame I or gettable and suit our team. The shining example To all what's required in fitness etc is Trac and how a new player can improve is Ed Langdon.Work is required on fitness and skills and greater game plan.

That's rubbish and giving Jack no credit as a footballer. I think he could be A Wallis up forward and given a run any where on the forward line role to get the hall and pressure the defenders BUT must play first option and kick right foot much more.

I would reckon ( even back it in) we swap a player like HF or outside runner that is in a best 25 but who can't get a regular game also. We will also shop around fir a forward/ ruck with some cred who can do 2/3 years till Jacko is ready to play in the centre more than half the game and Maxy will be winning us games from up forward resting a bit.

Geelong should be looking also Swans.

Both Tom and Polec Salary are about $600/700,000 so could cancel each other's out instead of each Club paying say $250,000 Out on each deal over 2 years.

We need a long term 50 goaler to assist Weid to become a 35/40 goaler as well. Ben B is a chance and Joe D also BUT the money asking may be prohibitive hence the discussion on Tom Mac as his salary is similar and each could offset the other at the two Clubs. Another Mitch Brown is only depth not a future FF for 2/3/4 years!

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Not going to happen No team wants a Sat pm fixture each week What's normal from the old days Sat arvo??? Only Twilight Sat And Sunday 6 pm are spots needed to be filled Gree with the two blockbusters but I would like 2 Thursday games as well and 2 extra Sat nigh or more Sun arvo 3.20 games for Free to Air blockbusters at G or interstate that our sponsors deserve esp if we are winning and in the 8.

Not according to him KD who I believe is in a much greater position to judge than you or I!! Thank goodness for that and good luck with us or any team he aspires to join to attempt to regain his AFL career,

Good list would add Saad and Will Brodie from Suns as a real gun is a top 10 pick not playing in Suns 22 best and they are realistic re his desire to play in AFL Withenden wouldn't be my choice not on ability but Lockhart is his clone in the back pocket so Saad fits the running bill of HB. Polec similarly on the non Ed L wing. Brodie is a HB Centre or mid is young and Woul be a great top up fir Harmes if he doesn't recover his 2018 form agsin. Plays tall and small I believe from memory. Don't know Cummings but Narkle looks promising as a HF.

My guess or opinion is that our output this year was very good from our Guns Aand B graders ie top 10/12 in the B andF zBUT our last 6/8 in the team did not provide the depth and support we expected and needed. I class Hannan Harmes Jetta AVB ANB Smith and Oscar in this category. Hunt Has a level he can go to like the lady game Baker When tried was a pleasant surprise and other than his disposal on some occasions was a little ragged plus Spargo put together 2 great games vs Woods and Giants Where he hit the scoreboard but was not so prominent in a couple of the othersBut Charlie generally can be defensive but we need much more than that consistently. He had developed and 2031 should see that even further. Thats why we should be looking at 3 of Ben Brown or Joe Daniher or Jarrod Polec Or AdamSaad or Will Brodie or Peter Wright ( if Pruess goes). Our depth is a myth except for Sparrow as we don't know how Jordan or Bedford Will be fir to lack of opportunity, All players have room for development and the Assistant Coaches need to be Replaced to give fresh ideas and break down Goody's stubborn approach to players and roles within the team and to have major input in our Game Plan for 2012 and beyond.

Sorry this list was supposed to be our Forward Line Brown Weid/Jacko with Mihocek and crumbers Kosi and Spargo/ Hunt crumbing. One could argue that Hunty really does not Or very rarely crumbs. Our top goal kicker not even included in the mix! Is that Ben or the bomber Brown we have got already ? Fritta is the glue that knits this lot together Anda potential 40 plus goaler.

Really remember we have Jacko!!! Will alter the whole Balance of our mids

Fritsch ?????!

No bottom side gets votes a lot although Maxy made it last year.

Was ducking WC style though

That was a practice game silly !!!wasnt it??

Why not 2 Big Macs for Polec/Brown and both the Tom and Jarrad "over payments "cancel each other out. Maybe an exchange of say a third rounder fir a fourth by the Clubs with North getting the Third round would be fair to all.

Yes agree AF Viney is all Melb and as with all players is a "work in progress". The Coaches must be more Ruthless and train him on kicking Right Foot and the first option. His disposal improved since earlier in the season and ALL Demons MUST develop this aspect of their game for us to go to the next level or two. Well done Jack all The best with your little one during the off season. Bring on 2021

That's OK YW we will just ask for either Breust OR Gunston as a swap ( or BOTH)

Sorry CR that is jumping at shadows!!! Bayley is not a flamboyant person and very respectful and humble also laid back and appears as though showing his Thoughts has been discouraged in his life to date. What our Coaches need to do is Develop Bayley as a footballer and in person ( like day Trac has become). Not all will agree with me but Fritta if he had goals instead of points, tackles sticking instead of not and Holding all his marks he gets hands to and plays smarter not leading to the pocket ( remember the last minute vs Lions) he will become an A grader. As a result he will also develop greatly as a person and his confidence similarly and enjoy his footy openly. Thus is what FClubs can provide and Melb must Do this as it's commitment to any player. Hands up If any fan here believes it's one of our strengths? For whatever reasons the Roos years of development have not seen a great result in this Aspect of our Club. We need some new Assistants ( prob a new Senior as well bu that this year is not changing). So we have Bayley crying out for development snd he has flatlined in many ways BUT it is up to the Club if it wants to win and become a strong force in the AFL to go this. Need we look any further to see what the Swans and Longmuir provide!! No wonder Finals in 20 out of 22 seasons is a given is it?