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we'll to some extent i agree, if it was up to me i probably woulda persevered with any of hore, declase or lockhart last year over baker but clearly we felt our defensive depth was stronger than our wing depth at the time. and mbrown deserved this year on our list and has done no harm by being on it. and if you read my comment properly i said offering voice and leadership at casey and breaking that potential divide between the regular afl side and a group of up to 10 players on our list now aged 21 and under who hadn't tasted any senior football at all going into the year aside from 7 games of boweys.

ok so say we moved on another two mature depth players last year for 18yo's suddenly we have zero depth, tbh we got relatively lucky again with injuries this season where we were able to swing the magnets for these one week injuries and essentially stay ahead of them rather than compiling multiple week injuries. also if we'd delisted them both last year then we'd have reached this point in the season with a mandatory three list changes to make and no obvious candidates, you need to keep some balance, these players know the club the training standards the game plan sometimes just having a few extra familiar voices can add a lot and help bridge the gap to the fresh faces entering the club each year at casey. last year we shifted on 6 players in the 22-26 age bracket some rather unfairly imo as well as two 30yo veterans thats a lot of strong mature bodies off the list in one go, it would've been irresponsible to do any more than that.

i was doing some analysis before and i realised we only need to delist two players at EOS to meet afl criteria. for the purpose of the exercise i've nominated mbrown who has done his 3yr rookie stint and is 32 and baker who didn't play a snr game and has been on the list for 5 years. chandler getting upgraded uses one pick and takes bakers list slot. taking us from 35senior 5A1B to 35S 4A1B and mbrown delisting takes us down to 35S 3A1B. this means we can then change our list structure from the 36S 6A1B setup we had this year to the 38S (either 3 draftees ontop of the chandler upgrade) or 37S (only two draftees plus chandler) and 4A1B (could be 2B if finn emile-brennan goes all the way through. everyone seems to think we need to make lots of calls and i get we want to find ways to improve our list etc etc but its interesting how it can be manipulated in certain ways if theres nothing we like. and we could have 2 rookie spots to trial players over the SPP and trial up to 6 players for those spots on a realistic universe

they've got aish and NOD on the wings already plus they put liam henry through there and erasmus/johnson from last years draft and rookie karl warner as well as hughes and wilson who played snr games there, they can afford to let him go if it means not overpaying fringe players.

i would've loved zurhaar for that marking ability but also the pressure and presence at ground level that he has

taking the spot of some more youth atm

having one injury interrupted year particularly the type of injuries he has had, doesnt scream injury prone

just because he plays as the deepest forward/starts in the goalsquare doesn't mean hes a KPF it just means hes dangerous in that area and/or is good 1on1 thats two very different things. he isnt about to floor a whole pack of players on centre wing but he might fly above them, but he wont skittle them yeh my point being TDK is playing at his boyhood club already same as harmesy, a completely different scenario to players who were drafted to other clubs

agree with everything youve said o55

keeler is a crows NGA player but unlikely to get to the necessary 40 pick cutoff, i wonder if they go early on him given the rumours on frampton to pies, tex's age and mcaseys slow development. iirc he was top 10 if not top 5 in ed pascoes EARLY rankings as in end of season 21 rankings

whilst i agree losing both is bad. i think whoever stays -seemingly chandler will fall behind laurie as well next year. and AMW is definitely showing improvement in that small forward role too

they grew up as blues fans iirc

would also be in the market for 2-3 2022 membership scarves seemed to have missed the collection somehow this season

26yo was a mature age pickup from the vfl as part of the suns assistance package 4 years ago. 190cm but solidly built at 90kgs good third tall who flies for the footy i would say gunston model but he's probably more of a mcstay build/pressence in terms that i'm not sure how quick he is but in a 1v1 wrestle or standing under a pack he probably goes better. has 29 goals from 33 games at afl level and kicked 25.15 from 10 vfl games before the weekends haul. doesn't appear to be much of a tackler though yeh he's always good for 3-4 scoring shots a game, but low possesion player atm but can see him getting up the ground in future, he's elite overhead and strong on the lead. he's gonna be a star. has genuine x-factor will be a top top player don't think you could play all three of them without a second genuine tall/resting ruck set up. whilst henry and fritta are good overhead if you put bodywork into them they lose their explosiveness and the reason they are so dangerous as forwards is because they get matchups that favour them in terms of size/height

josh corbett who took 17 marks and kicked 4.4 in the suns elim final win over BH is on the radar of the lions to replace mcstay and the dockers to replace lobb, wonder if we'd ask the question as a depth option as well given our talls situation

all the initial reports are saying geelong which makes sense given touhy and o'connor are so settled and ingrained there as well as his apparent connection with pops kelly from their time at the dons but i hope we're in play here. ticks a lot of boxes. excellent balance between elite kicking and blistering pace, would arrive as a DFA so no cost included in picking him up and would be an ideal replacement for hibbo long term and by joining us he'd get a proper chance at a flag. we also have the irish heritage and connection ingrained inour clubs history which could be appealing to mckenna, every irishman looks up to jim and the chance to play for the same team is surely a lure. sidenote, how on earth are teh cats fitting in Hopper, McKenna, Grundy, Bruhn and Bailey Scott? asking for a mate

i think Declase, Hore and Dunstan make the final side

rkn he'll wrap up now, he was super smart, think like a 99 ATAR and his back has held him back since he signed with carlton, probably time for the next stage

we're already losing Majak and assumably MBrown as talls off the list (given his 3yr rookie time is up) with serious Q's over Weids ability/want to stay and just make up the numbers and TMac's lisfranc, we need the balance of an extra tall on the list. Baker -agree Rosman -agree Hunt -agree Hibbo/Melky - i think get 1yrs regardless Jackson -agree Bedford -stays i rkn but yes is OOC

im expecting him to be a second cat b rookie tbh

little spiel from the HS

who would u replace them with?

had a crack at putting a side together on zerohanger from the 44. rkn this is pretty fair. maybe sicily to CHB and a different BP in but couldn't really press a case for any too hard. and tossed up the macrae spot possibly for trac but i think he hasn't been as good as last year or it could be a witts/CCameron/stengle in that order

close this thread @admins

OOC in 2023 but i can't see him leaving even after his recent spell in the 2s, he'll be top 2-3 ruckman in the comp in the next 5 years he's only 23yo. think how much english has exploded this year thatll be TDK next