Demons1858

Its not bonus its just a fair trade

Will be interesting to see how he goes against Gawn and Grundy

Same as when the president comes out and says we are right behind the coach ... at the moment

Club will be confident they can use pick 30 to move either first round picks forward this year or next otherwise this would drag out further

Sounds like your emotionally connected to this guy. Chill out. Is this the same back up ruck that can't get a game and the club appear happy to trade to Essendon for a packet of chips?

You're assuming a few things. 1. that l didn't see Weid in the VFL where he was a touch more competative but still not AFL standard and 2. That the ruck needs to win tap outs when in fact you don't if you set up right and have an extra onballer at ground level like Harmes. Weid is old news

Weideman would be traded if Bruce came in l think. Melk isnt going to make our forward line function as he is too small for the long bombs. Coaches want the old model with resting ruck, BB and someone that can compete for the long bombs to support BB coming in from the side ie Tmac, Bruce, JVR .... if grundy and gawn are injured then play Joel Smith / Harmes in the ruck they will compete better than Weid anyhow

The trade makes, both had knee issues, both struggling to find their best form since, both playing some vfl, both behind a few in their respective positions ... just don't want to hear 'pony up' used again

That would be right, he is on the March calendar, and missing in the later season months

Keep your powder dry, there are better alternatives

Should be better the 2nd year after coming off a knee ... makes sense if there isn't anyone else on the market and its a straight swap ... would be ahead of weid for a start and atleast shown he can elevate his level. Weid can go to saints after

I think teams are avoiding later picks in this years draft as its been said to be soft outside the top end is my guess ... in a soft year those picks don't actually equal pick 14

I hear on good authority that he has checked in for a flight to Bali again in the last few days ... this could get ugly sooner than expected

Not talking hard ball, its just we played soft ball in just this one trade. Adelaide got more than market value. His best and fairest results and need for the team to play a particular structure for him to shine proves that

We could and should have got Lever and the premiership without bending over to Adelaide for lesser picks.

Agree with most of that, but has he played consistently like a pick 5 each year? No way, but like all key positron players they are important to structure. Re the Carlton kick, unlike the Geelong one, it was a miss kick in my opinion, but points for being there first to the ball

The point you miss again is that Dunstan or others can replaces Harmes and in the starting 22 and we dont lose too much on field. Harmes salary can be used for our key needs ... but you keep going back to old posts

He played 19 games this year ... everyone has injuries

You should check May's b and f record and compare it to Lever. Lever has had 1 very good season and struggles to function unless the defensive structure is set up for him where he can leave his man

Correct pick 5 for a player that had been top 10 in b and f once and came 19th this season

Lever has finished top 10 in our best and fairest 1 in five years and finished 19th this year

No, you just look to change context to avoid the possibility you might not know everything .. thanks, l will have a good one

You replied directly to his comment where he implied we had depth in the form of Dunstan and others. Your so selective with your quotes above. And who cares what order it was in, you failed to fully appreciate the broader potential benefits of trading harmes out given the glut in mids which was suggested to you

I have read his post and he talks about covering Harmes with Dunstan or other good young options we have in the VFL. Implying that we have depth in those roles. You may have missed the point he was making

Agree harmes is better, but its money ball and if you have a glut of depth in any area that isn't fully utilised then you move them on and go get (or retain) another ruck / forward / winger that covers up a bigger hole and that then drives significant improvement