John Demonic

How many footy minds has Jones seen? Tis a bit like Campbell Brown endorsing someone as a good bloke, hardly an experienced or reliable determiner on what constitutes 'good'

FFS; Jordan Lewis is still one of our smartest players and most versatile - forward or defence. He even ran down and got a HTB tonight! He doesn't need to have speed with his positioning. Just looks like a completely different breed of player that sizes up the situation and applies the correct bodywork, tap, spoil etc, especially compared with the tactical immaturity surrounding him. If we're a shambles by mid next year and he's not in any way associated with the club be it player or coach (replacing Rooke? Jennings?) - then i'm done with the club. Has been my favourite player these past 3 years and still has better claim to a spot on the list with his current form, than half the list. Heck, he's got more claim to next year than Hibberd and especially Jones. And jesus christ do we need players like Lewis, that can hobble around and still be far more useful than the dirth of headless chooks ball watching Been supporting them in two stints ill admit, childhood age 4-21 and the last 7 years of my adulthood, settling down in 2013-2019 (Missed in between with other interests) - The hope of the club rebuilding and acquiring Roos got me back on board, but another poor year is just indefensible in terms of keeping footy in my priorities again.

The score is currently 39-20 and watching on delay. I've just logged onto the latest page and I'm guessing we lose because we're playing with no heart at all. No interest at all in seeing it unfold, may as well save 90 minutes of my life. Edit: Ok, now to start back with page 1, and afl.com saying its 95-41 or something, ew.

He's been working on his piggyback technique in the VFL and might be able to steer the opposition over the boundary line.

Given our needs, Hayden Ballentyne deserves his own thread more than Daisy Thomas. I'm not game to create one though.

Nah, we only play off and dish out last quarter spankings to Carlton in week 1 finals

Would be a better place than Melbourne to spend the month of September

I don't really understand these types of ideas. What exactly is he coming back to that was there when he was a player? He wants to return to the same but older cheer squad to chat with every saturday pre game? The same 85 year old boot studder in the locker room? Time to move on and get the best person for the job.

Interesting to think about what kind disproportionate advantage we can leverage out of The Lachie Weller Suns, if we pick get pick 2 and they get a pick 11 PP etc? I mean, could we could ask for Ben King and pick 11 for pick 2. We could also ask for Ben King, Izak Rankine and pick 11 for pick 2, 20 & 2020 first. The mind boggles

"6 clubs apparently in the race to get him" was mentioned on Classified. Wonder if we're in the race?

"According to Caroline Wilson, young forward Ben King could depart the Gold Coast Suns as soon as this season" What would you trade to bring him in? Would we trade pick 3 for him? A 2020 1st round pick?

And we have Bayley Fritsch; the most successful player of the modern X'era

Pick 3? What to do with pick 5 after we wipe the floor with Horse & Rice Sure. These late season wins that we're all cheering (not tanking) for are coming yeah?

Melksham played a pretty dominant first half against Richmond earlier in the year when he was put in the midfield, might still be our leading clearance player (as a very small sample size of % of time in there) - We obviously have needs in the forward-line, but i'm just wondering if Melksham along with Petracca can add 1 more dimension to our midfield that could push us into an elite category next year. We obviously plan to target Langdon, probably won't get Hill, so i'm still thinking that we're going to be 1 elite midfielder short of being an absolutely elite midfield again. Clubs are targetting a Coniglio say, so if we're not going to add a player like that in there. Who exactly is going to fill that void? This year has surely taught, inspite of injuries, that we're still lacking in that area imo.

Interesting take. It was Xavier Ellis on his podcast that said at the start of the year that our midfield was overrated and we did not actually have any A-graders, predicting Oliver was not one yet, nor would be this year to the exasperation of the other hosts. He gets a tick for that currently. Then a month back, he also said that we shouldn't be targeting any forwards or wingers at a high cost, but another elite mid. He used Rory Sloane as an example of a 1 elite midfielder that we needed in there and a big trade like that would at least change the dynamic of our midfield group that could accelerate our development. Whether it's a 25 year old mid of a 30 year old mid, we're still lacking 1 elite mid. Sloane probably ungettable, but we can use our imaginations. Edit: Hawthorn add Mitchell/O'Meara, Essendon add Shiel (B+ though), Carlton/Hawthorn will probably add Coniglio. Melbourne might need to come up with a particular move over the next 2 off-seasons. I also have to wonder, if Goodwin/FD see Ed Langdon as a player, like Melksham, that can keep trending upwards and become elite at their position. Elite enough to play that impacting outside mid role, and not just a roaming wing/hb

Not to mention it's a very Weid like performance. 1 big goal haul in a season and all of a sudden a 21 YEAR OLD KPF that's spent most of the season in the two's will fill all our forwardline holes immediately? Try maybe in 2-3 years. I'd prefer Jenkins, Tmac instantly takes 2nd defender, Weid 3rd and we're back to the dynamic of 2018, at very little cost.

This is just going 180 degrees to other extreme of the spectrum. Another post, like all of the "wrist slashing" that could do with 14 more rounds before we can assess whether the tone is accurate. Or whether the doom and gloom being satirized was actually accurately doomy and gloomy.

Fried ay night footy

They'll have to be renamed the Greatest Western Semifinalists, as i think tonight probably sealed the deal on an incoming week 2 finals exit.

I think he's been one of the most interesting players to watch on the team this past month, given how animated he is with coaching teammates, how creative he can be, and how he's exceeding peoples very low expectations of him currently. He gets my price of admission currently in a year lacking highs, so i'm an unabashed fan. His soccered goal on the goalline had be jumping out of my seat for one of the few times this year. No on else on our team would've created that with their bodywork. Go Jordan! Prove the naysayers wrong.

Incredible seems to be one of the few adjectives in Goody's vocabulary, so he may have meant that JV & NJ had done a mildly satisfactory job this year (I hope)

There's a whole lot of irony in what you're saying given the '18 preliminary finalist and widely touted premiership favourites took their other captain and 2nd best player a year before free agency (which probably counts as being a product of free agency) - We don't really have any arguments to make against pick 2 going there, unless it's one purely out of self-interest. I'm all for being mildly annoyed about it, but we have no real leg to stand on on the issue.

i sincerely hope the club has their ears to the ground and is ready at the drop of the hat to clear a salary or two off the books, irrespective of how many games they've played at the club, in order to match or even exceed a bid that the Saints are offering (Could be Frost, Jones, Garlett etc). I'd rather Hill and 2 more young draftees on minimum afl wage that wont even play a game, than 2 seniors on 350-400k who we are still waiting on whether they can make it, or if they have another year of afl standard footy to give. I wonder if it's all tied in with the news that Jack Steven will probably be off to Geelong this year, and how much cap space that frees up for them. We might actually be outbid by a far bigger amount than we can possibly make up.

Or maybe all of this fan trade discussion on social media for the past month that eventually seeped into all of the major media outlets, will light a fuse under him so he comes out firing next year wanting to prove a point. And maybe just maybe all the dont worry 'he will continue to grow and get better with age and experience' sentiment just breeds complacency. Nothing is guaranteed to progress or 'get better' and calling fans disloyal for wanting to plug holes in our list by moving under-performing players out with currency is basically just trying to stifle constructive list discussions. I don't necessarily think we should trade him if we can address list needs in other ways, but disloyalty for discussing a trade is a bridge too far. I follow the MFC, not angus brayshaw.

Hawthorn linked to him is very bad news. Wouldn't surprise me if Clarko has done the scumbag Croad move and sent Hill away for 2 years in order to get one of the picks required for that O'Meara trade at the time, before welcoming him back.