joeboy

Cause for optimism? I had some free time and called SEN yesterday to specifically ask David Schwarz one question that’s been nagging me for years. I know he has a son and was wondering ( hoping ) if he had the makings of a prospective father/son nomination in a few years time David was very honest and admitted that whilst his son played football , he was only 12 and pencil thin , thus not monstering opponents yet . On the positive side he WAS projected to grow to 6’6” ( in the old measurements ) and The Ox hoped he’d be good enough to play for the mighty Dees eventually. We can live and dream? because realistically there’s no other superstars in the recent history of the club that we can hope for similarly gifted offspring.

I actually have confidence that Kent will be e revelation this season. Just as a matter of interest , when is the coaching staff seen as responsible for not getting the right output from a player who obviously has ability? Is it ALWAYS the player's fault alone for not living up to supporters' expectations? BTW, that was a rhetorical question.. I know the answer

Idiotic comment

Any space for Clarrie?

Read my lips .. Gaff

This is not exactly on the topic but does relate to Robbo's involvement with the club: Has the club got enough public liability insurance to pay out those victims who break their necks during the 1/4 time Hogan's Heroes speccy marking contests? That Robbo hosted event is a tragedy waiting to happen?

Watts for Stringer... straight swap of 2 prodigiously talented but underperforming players

I've been saying it forever elsewhere...prolific but wasteful. The sooner we move him on the happier I'll be

Jones - always the warrior ( 8 ) Viney - injuries cruelled year ( 6 ) Hogan - year from hell ( 3 ) Salem - only occasional glimpses ( 5 ) Watts - impressive first half ( 6 ) Petracca - teased and underperformed ( 5 ) Lewis - performed as expected ( 7.5 ) Trengove - cannot be retained ( 3 ) Brayshaw - understandably limited output ( 4 ) Gawn - disappointing and underwhelming ( 5 ) Tyson - lacking basic skills ( 5 ) Oliver - talented and consistent ( 8.5 ) Hibberd - decade-best recruit ( 8.5 ) Stretch - has gone backwards ( 3 ) Kent - little to commend ( 3 ) Frost - fine first half ( 6.5 ) Melksham - a surprise packet ( 6.5) Hannan - made an impression ( 6 ) Pedersen - rough but capable ( 7 ) Vince - slowing and mistakeridden ( 5 ) Kennedy-Harris - not Goodwin's favourite ( 3 ) T.McDonald - highs and lows ( 6.5 ) Weideman - far from ready ( 3 ) O.McDonald - coming of age ( 7.5 ) Hunt - exciting but tired ( 7 ) Neal-Bullen - break out year ( 6 ) Bugg - tried but limited ( 5 ) Spencer - little to assess ( 3 ) Garlett - exciting but restricted ( 6.5 ) Jetta - slow but cunning ( 7 ) White - didn't show enough ( 3 ) Wagner - rarely imbued confidence ( 4 ) Harmes - occasionally stood out ( 5.5 )

Are you an idiot???

If we're fortunate enough to make it through to the finals I'm certain the players will know what levels they have to aspire to. Yesterday's debacle may be a blessing in disguise

Jones - gallant and cared Hogan - unsighted before injury Salem - slow and loose Watts - didn't silence doubters Petracca - had little impact Lewis - season best game Brayshaw - was rarely sighted Gawn - couldn't hold marks Tyson - an overrated liability Oliver - many pointless handpasses Hibberd - continued downward spiral Melksham - took his chances Hannan - overwhelmed and undersized Pedersen - no heroics today Vince - past his prime T.McDonald - disappointing and loose O.McDonald - hardly imbued confidence Hunt - exciting but careless Neal-Bullen - was hardly noticed Garlett - frustrating but tried Jetta - not his best Harmes - was he playing?

Peter Jackson just interviewed on SEN What an impressive spokesperson for the club.. takes and speaks no BS. The standout point made was that the club appears on target to post a million dollar profit this year?

Jones - heart and soul Hogan - an amazing return Petracca - didn't impose enough Lewis - an important component Brayshaw - classy but subdued Gawn - failed to impose Tyson - was rarely effective Oliver - eventually shook opponent Hibberd - ragged but vital Stretch - little to enthuse Melksham - quietly undertook requirements Hannan - had little impact Pedersen - the resurrection continues Vince - the decline continues T.McDonald - was rarely sighted O.McDonald - stuck to task Hunt - uncertain ball handling Neal-Bullen - publicity stifled performance Garlett - 2 minute performance Jetta - was unusually quiet Wagner - far from convincing Harmes - some deft touches

I'm Dom Tyson?

Jones - perfect captain's game Viney - disappointing captain's game Petracca - seemingly lacking energy Lewis - important General again Brayshaw - energetic and creative Gawn - was surprisingly beaten Tyson - great first quarter Oliver - heart and spirit Hibberd - not his best Melksham - did just enough Hannan - 5 electrifying minutes Pedersen - career best game Vince - keep it simple T.McDonald - versatile and peerless Weideman - tried but limited O.McDonald - reliable and impressive Hunt - displayed energy again Neal-Bullen - quiet after first Garlett - continues to underperform Jetta - safe and composed Wagner - unconvincing but learning Harmes - rough but effective

Jones - was understandably rusty Viney - continuing to underperform Salem - loose and slow Watts - lazy and embarrassing Petracca - nothing to redeem Lewis - slow but persisted Gawn - disciplined but limited Tyson - was a liability Oliver - had little influence Hibberd - fumbled and loose Frost - an amateur performance Melksham - had limited impact Pedersen - wasn't the answer Vince - a workmanlike performance T.McDonald - had no impact O.McDonald - our only winner Hunt - had no impact Neal- Bullen - just a game Garlett - heartless and disinterested Jetta - gave a damn Harmes - no redeeming component Maynard - looks a player

Viney - had little influence Hogan - little before injury Salem - surprisingly poor disposal Watts - a huge disappointment Petracca - missing in action Lewis - slow but important Trengove - last career game Gawn - couldn't assert advantage Tyson - rarely found teammates Oliver - prolific but impetuous Hibberd - loose and ragged Frost - taught a lesson Melksham - unsighted after first Hannan - unsighted all game Kennedy - Harris - little to enthuse T.McDonald - never stopped trying O.McDonald - was generally safe Hunt - seemingly lacking energy Neal-Bullen - out for Jones Garlett - only dangerous forward Jetta - first quarter horrors Harmes - had no impact

Viney - great until tiring Hogan - gradually regaining touch Salem - played with composure Watts - needed the run Petracca - quiet but dangerous Lewis - marshalled the forces Trengove - slow but valuable Gawn - dominated the centre Tyson - prolific but wasteful Oliver - often too impulsive Hibberd - continued outstanding year Frost - steady and reliable Melksham - smart and dangerous Hannan - continued to surprise Kennedy-Harris - was rarely sighted T.McDonald - versatile and effective O.McDonald - reliable and safe Hunt - heart and soul Neal- Bullen - great first half Garlett - went missing often Jetta - read game beautifully Harmes - tough but limited

6 - Lewis ( composed and assured all game ) 5 - Hunt ( has X factor in spades ) 4 - Hibberd ( got lots of the ball but was surprisingly wasteful ) 3 - Kennedy-Harris ( finally brought some of his Casey form to the table ) 2 - Melksham ( for a fine first half ) 1 - Wagner ( showed grit and endeavour)

Hogan - diluted team's confidence Petracca - needed more involvement Lewis - our best performer Gawn - just a shadow Oliver - tried but overwhelmed Hibberd - prolific but wasteful Kent - quiet before injury Frost - destroyed by class Melksham - good first half Hannan - not an onballer Pedersen - on downward spiral Vince - undisciplined but tried Kennedy-Harris - deserves another game T.McDonald - game from hell O.McDonald - persisted but overwhelmed Hunt - displayed great energy Neal-Bullen - poor under pressure Garlett - failed to perform Jetta - season worst game Wagner - persisted and impressed Harmes - little to commend Smith - far from ready

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6 - Frost ( goes from strength to strength ) 5 - Oliver ( looked like the only onballer capable of clearing from the centre) 4 - T.McDonald ( our only winning forward option) 3 - Hibberd ( never admitted defeat ) 2 - Lewis ( regularly stood up despite the pressure ) 1 - O.McDonald ( continued his reliable and steady performance in defence )

Hogan - was understandably quiet Petracca - played in bursts Lewis - important but slow Gawn - had limited influence Oliver - great first half Hibberd - continued to inspire Stretch - little to enthuse Kent - was mostly unsighted Frost - outstanding all game Melksham - regularly poor disposal Hannan - had little involvement Pedersen - didn't offer much Vince - experience often showed T.McDonald - only winning forward O.McDonald - safe and effective Hunt - loose, rebounded well Neal-Bullen - some vital touches Garlett - had limited influence Jetta - one memorable interception Wagner - played his part Harmes - was rarely sighted Smith - nervous and limited Tyson - overrated and unsighted

What about Hibberd's spoil that led to O Mac getting it to Harmes and then to the golden boy?